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Post by zayin on Sept 8, 2005 21:34:21 GMT -5
Does anyone know of Familiars? Or work with animal guides? I know familiars are used as aids in magick, but not sure how to. Do they have to be physical? Because I had a very vivid dream recently. In it I was asked to get a ring out of a bears mouth for a little girl. I approached the bear and it was sleeping. I started to pet and scratch the bear. It woke up and started to bite me, very friendly though, like a dog play bites. The Bear and I played a little, and I continues to pet it, and I saw a tag on the bear. It said 'Familiar Bear'!! As soon as I thought about the ring it opened it's mouth and the ring appeared. The dream was very real, and I could feel the soft hair, and the strength of the Bear. I am trying to do magick in dreams and astral. How would I incorperate a Familiar?? Just by having it present? Anyways any help is appreciated as I don't know much about using a Familiar.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Sept 9, 2005 16:34:15 GMT -5
hmm, im not sure, I used to call my animals familiars however I never used them in rituals or my work, but I think there is a a rite somwhere for familiars to bring them into the circle with you and use their attributes in magick..Im not sure which book though..sorry..
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Post by nani on Sept 10, 2005 17:39:32 GMT -5
me too I dont know anything concrete about the rites of this thing, I just know that if those animals like the bear and now the elephant too appear in your dreams intensively, then these are your "power-animals", your "ally" in the astral-world. I`ve had dreams of animals a lot, but long ago and they were not appearing as my "power-allys" (mine is in this world though), but my brother has such animal-meetings in dreams, whenever they appear he knows its a "big dream" with a certain important message. Surely you can invent just your own ritual to call them, should be nothing wrong with that. lgn
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Post by Anise on Sept 11, 2005 21:31:20 GMT -5
The encyclopedia of 5000 spells has a bit of info on familiars and animal allies.
Basically a familiar is a specific individual creature with whom you have established a psychic bond and who can realistically live with you. Although wild animals that frequent you can also be considered familiars. Such as a bird or any other animal that stops by to see you regularly.
And animal allies are a form of spiritual relationship: because the relationship may occur entirely in the realm of spirit, any animal may be approached.
I believe you have found an animal ally who has choosen to work with you.
I got this information from the encyclopedia of 5000 spells on pages 105-107.
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Post by zayin on Sept 12, 2005 12:30:58 GMT -5
hmm I should of checked in that book, I only seem to view it as a spell, and potion book, but I guess it is a great reference book as well. I think I may get a book just on familiars too. I seem to be having some strange animal experiences lately, in waking and sleeping reality. Yeah I guess for now I'll work on my own ritual to call them for help. I like using personalized rituals more anyways, more from the heart and thus more magick involved. Thanks everyone!
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Sept 13, 2005 6:17:01 GMT -5
I think just having your animals in a room with you while you do your magick or whatever is a good thing, I Used to extend energy to my bird and the energy would go through her and than out into the world..and she was in a differant room but I would just focus on her for a bit and than send my energy over, it seemed to create faster results and I knew my bird was special because I dreamed of her before I got her than she was in most of my dreams after I got her..aww I miss my bird.....
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Post by Anise on Sept 13, 2005 17:49:33 GMT -5
I too think that having your animal in the room with you while doing magical workings is good. It not only enhances your relationship on a physical level it enhances your relationship on a spiritual level. I consider my dog my familiar we are always together and she helps me through tough times and she really enhances whatever magic I may be working with.
Personalized rituals are always more powerful.
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Post by hestia on Nov 5, 2005 8:46:20 GMT -5
The Talamsca call any spirit attatched to a witch a familiar. A lot of times, these spirits can be in physical animal form, but they don't have to be. My familiar is a dragon spirit.
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Post by nani on Nov 5, 2005 12:08:22 GMT -5
wow hestia, a dragon spirit, that sounds powerful.. ..its nice to see you back here over and over, so best greeetings and regards to you, lgn
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Nov 6, 2005 18:58:21 GMT -5
im starting to think that all animals are our familiars for it does not matter who you are, I think we all are in touch, every animal, every human being..however if we dream of certain animals I think there message is similar to how we perceive them in waking life, and that is usually what the animal is standing for on a symbolic basis..
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Post by nani on Nov 6, 2005 19:36:39 GMT -5
that sounds great and true and very reasonable.. lgn
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Nov 8, 2005 7:17:16 GMT -5
thanks nani...
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Post by Anise on Nov 10, 2005 1:38:00 GMT -5
Yeah we are all made upof essentially the same thing. Outside of our physical bodies we are all the same. I think animals are no different.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Nov 12, 2005 7:43:08 GMT -5
I think its odd that I would hear my animals during the obe process, for example in the hypnogogic state, I could hear my fish as if they were right next to me, I could hear their movements..I think I wrote of this in the obe board..so odd, and my boyfriend had a slight state of hypno and heard our gerbals running in there wheels as if they were right next to him, however they were in the other room.. has this happend to you guys??
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Post by crazycat on Nov 14, 2005 16:32:01 GMT -5
After my cat died last year, I wasn't going to get another one, but it was less than a month and there I was with two new kitties. Hehe! Their names are Garcie and Thig. My sister gave me Garcie, he is a yellow stripe cat with white paws and I got Thig the next day ( he is black stipes) when her car broke down that night and we were out in the middle of nowhere on a dirt rode. Thigs comes running out of the woods and wanted us to save him and I did. He is such a loving little guy. But anyways, they are in my dreams all the time doing something out of the ordinary to let me know I'm dreaming and almost everyday they are in some vision when I meditate. So I guess they are my familiars. Just about every cat I have owned it seemed like they could read my mind and I theirs. It's just a natural thing with me. I've had my little dog (Deebo) now for almost 6 years and I can only remember him in my dream once, but that one time his being there helped me to have my first on purpose OBE. It was a big breakthrough for me. The kitties just love him to pieces. They are so very crazy about him and all three are great friends to each other as well as to me.
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Post by crazycat on Nov 14, 2005 17:42:05 GMT -5
The Talamsca call any spirit attatched to a witch a familiar. A lot of times, these spirits can be in physical animal form, but they don't have to be. My familiar is a dragon spirit. I know a relly cool website that tells about Dragon spirits/being. pw2.netcom.com/~leemarsh/moddrag1.htmlIf you want to know even more go to the following webpage and scroll all the way to the bottom and there are bunches of websites about dragons. I have not read them all,but that first one I posted is some really cool reading. www.draconian.com/whatis/By the way some of these Draconian are with the good guys. Hehe! ;D But who knows, they just may be wolves in sheeps clothing. That looks like a smiley in bunny clothing.
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Post by Anise on Nov 15, 2005 0:57:05 GMT -5
Wow thanks for the links CC.
That was a great story and just goes to show that everything happens for a reason. I believe the best way to aquire pets is just that aquiring. I've had my dog Nakita for about 5 years now and she has and still does help me through tough times. She is there by my side when I'm sick and offers an ear when I need it. She seems to just know when I need her company. Animals are amazing creatures.
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Post by crazycat on Nov 15, 2005 19:14:17 GMT -5
I agree Anise, animals are amazing. A lot of fun to have around, too.
I didn't tell how I acquired my little dog. I have never been much on dogs,because their smells really gets to me. This little dog adopted me not the other way around. He was very insistence that I take him home with me and kept at it until I finally gave in and took him as my own. It was a very good decision. He was just what I needed. ;D
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Post by Anise on Nov 16, 2005 11:46:55 GMT -5
It seems animals are drawn to you.
My husband and I aquired two mice a few months ago. They are the cutest little things and are already spoiled.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Mar 5, 2006 20:43:14 GMT -5
I know this is an old thread, but i found it fasinating to read. I agree with most of thr posts here. I think Our familiar can be the spirit of an animal and or an actual animal living with us.. I have Bear as my totem animal and guide, I would say fits in as a familiar and my Dog Bruin, He chose me and we have been inseparable since. He knows my feelings, he knows when i'm afraid, sad and sick. he come and gives me loves when i need it most. Such a treasure to have around. As a familiar I dont know really haven't thought about it. I suppose he would be, he keeps me grounded and in tune with the animal kingdom and nature. I think that would make him a familiar?
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