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Post by michael on Aug 7, 2006 19:16:22 GMT -5
I haven't decided yet. Let you guys decide my fate. After having the dream last night I was a undead skeleton. It's inspired me to summon back all my physical negs. They can be all my friends. They have a great sense of humour and I can love them all.
BTW in my past life I was a dark magician. So I still have the power in me.
Please list all the negatives and positives about this idea
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Post by Dancing Bear on Aug 7, 2006 21:11:52 GMT -5
Micheal we are faced with major choices in our Spiritual journey,all the time, Major tests ,and go through many initiations. We are free to choose whichever path we want for ourselves. We can choose to ignore it all together, we can choose to be brave Keep our feet on the ground and keep going because we know we can help our fellow Man or Spirit ...heal and illuminate. Or we can choose to keep going but along the darker path of the arts It is a lonely ungrounding journey.Where we can manipulate ... for our own sense of worth (knowing along the way you will hurt others in the path) Including yourself... You are Micheal this lifetime Micheal.. Please concentrate on that! Because Past Lives are our "Souls" past Incarnations Not our "Spirits"... Your "Soul" was incarnated in the "Spirit" of a Dark magician.. Micheal wasn't.. You have only ever and will only ever be Micheal.. If you can try to separate the Past lives from yourself you are half way there.. I hope i have said this in a way that is easy enough to understand. If you know the incarnation of your "Soul" was in a past life time,.. can you not see the err in the ways of this dark Magician, That is the reason you are given the gift of insight of seeing past lifes is to make sure you do not repeat past mistakes.To heal and allow your Soul to become Pure and Positive. When we Die Micheal we become Pure Spirit energy, we can be negative Energy or Postive energy. Negative energy like to hurt those who are living, Like the Negative Energy that is living on this planet now., they are never your friend... As you already know Negative energy is not nice to have hanging around. Would you rather be The Illuminator or the Oppressor.. Your Choice Michael Lots a Luv Dancing Bear xxx
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Post by michael on Aug 8, 2006 2:01:53 GMT -5
Hi dancing bear. I would be helping allot of people wake up to true reality once they see the undead. They will convert to spiritual subjects just like we have. Which is a good deed. Yes I could get karma for frighting heaps of innocent people but Im helping them grow rapidly- spiritually wise. My other master plan is to help negs achieve a more desirable state from the ascension. If I bring the underworld to earth they will come with me to the next dimension- ascension. I would be saving heaps of souls trapped in hell- (The underworld) below the physical dimension.
I think this is a great idea. Only if Im ready and can handle all the adrenalin from a seeing a undead junky.
I don't want to convert to the dark side unfortunately. It's possible that the physical negs can convert me into a undead. For example if I fall into the sea of dead bodies.
That's it Im trapped forever in hell.
Only problem would be that the underworld is a big place. I still haven't decided. Lots of people go to hell so you can imagine the underworld filled like sardeens in a bottle.
If I bring the underworld to earth. This world would be polluted with negative energy. Earth can fall into a lower dimension.
That's the problem
Their needs to be a balance.
And again most people that go to hell are criminals. So I don't know what to expect if I deal with these things.
Maybe working with 1 neg spirit at a time. Build a relationship with it. Then it will protect me from the violent negs. Spawning them from the underworld portal.
Im guessing I don't need to rescue souls from hell because of the ascension. The underworld will convert to earth and earth will convert to a higher dimension.
That's my guess.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Aug 8, 2006 4:39:50 GMT -5
I am afraid Micheal I do not believe in Heaven and Hell. There is only one plane we all go after this.. I beleive this because when doing Spirit work You can get both negative and postive and they both are on the same plane, Their Orbs seem to be different but non the less the same plane.. I do believe in a higher force some people call God... I call the Universal truth. But regardless of beliefs, We all know there are Negative and Positive Spirit.. If you want to work with Negatives I think you need to start to learn how to communicate with Spirit ...How to protect yourself and surrounds.... You are talking of doing Medium work, And rescuing negative Spirits.( yes they do need rescuing).. There are a lot of Spirits that need help Not just negatives... But when you start delving in with Spirit.. You need to learn who your Guide is. Who your Gatekeeper is. How to work with them.. If you are truly serious about helping Negative Spirit... I agree they are Negative for a reason, maybe just peeved because they have lost there way,, It will not be easy convincing them to move on, nor to become positive. I would keep my work professional and do not become too attached to the Spirit you are working with.It is hard, but a professional approach is best. As an every day Psychotherapist would work, You need to become learned in this too at least the basics.. You need to find a Spiritual Church or Group to help you develop your abilities and help you in areas you may not have thought of... Start watching Programs that have real Mediums who seek out Spirits and watch how they handle negative Spirit, Watch how they work with their guides.. Before you go jumping in the deep end ...Educate yourself with all possibilities that may arise so you are not caught unaware and get lumbered with a spirit that will not leave you alone.. Mind all you have to do is tell them to go away and they will But if you are not sure of what you are doing they will know.... If you are protected also you will not become too drained nor sick from it... It is a big job to take on.. But if you are serious find someone in your area to help.. Ring a local Medium from your Phone book . Have a chat with them..Help will come if you are meant to move forward, Please do not go ahead with this work until you have at least spoken to a professional working in this field. Dancing Bear
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Aug 8, 2006 8:16:53 GMT -5
Michael are you serious?Im sorry but perhaps you are surrounded with too much negativity..also man creates all ..even negative energies/souls..your thoughts do create..take a look around.There are way too many fairy tales in this reality that are there for the minds escape which is good, many things of this earth are only ideas michael..and to me they are great to have, for fantasy's sake of course but this reality is made for the physical..and to me everthing else is still unknown..therefore I can not really say what is out there for certain..keeping an open mind is good..but being too open can be dangerous..if you let negativity rule you it will rule your life as well. Maybe play a bit more video games that let you have a world of the undead..or be the fantasy you see in your minds eye.. when I am not happy with my reality I usually escape it by playing a video game or reading a book..this turns my negativity into positives because i am releasing everything and turning it into something I enjoy..
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Post by elvinlady on Aug 8, 2006 11:16:28 GMT -5
Michael please be careful. What you are talking about could be dangerous. How much help could you be? I mean we all decide what we are going to be and these spirits may not want to be helped and they may hurt you or deceive you into thinking they want help and then turn on you. If you do decide to do this, make sure you are protected and know how to handle anything that may happen.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Aug 8, 2006 16:10:23 GMT -5
I agree with elvin lady..evil to me is our own creation..it is a physical thing ..but this is just my beleif..
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Post by michael on Aug 8, 2006 16:10:40 GMT -5
Dancing Bear it's good you don't believe in hell. Because believing in hell is the belief destination life after death.
I need protection first. And I need to be mentally fit for this dirty job.
I'll bring pics of these AHSWF entity for your eyes. That's only if Im successful. And the physical world is like a game. With magick anything is possible.
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Post by michael on Aug 8, 2006 16:17:55 GMT -5
The next obstacle would be my mum. She might not feel comfortable with me inviteing these things over to my house.
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Post by michael on Aug 8, 2006 16:54:57 GMT -5
I guess I can't do this at my house. I know what the reaction would be. Unless if Im liveing with my dad. I can't do this around females.
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Post by crazycat on Aug 8, 2006 21:18:37 GMT -5
;D The man, Jesus of Galilee has already done that. Do you feel he did not do a good enough job! By the way, it took him thirty years to prepare and he had all the angels backing him. The man Jesus walked the Razor's Path for all of us and did away with what was the dimensions of hell and the fallen angels/demons that had their dewlling there. Ascension has been accomplished for planet Earth; all that's left is for each soul to realized that. Remember time is an illusion. I suppose there might be some other planet out there that is in trouble and in need of a Savior/Christ. Michael, you could possibly use this lifetime to prepare to become the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to some other dying planet, but this one has been saved already even though there are a lot of want-a-bes in this world that are trying there best to undo what has been acomplished. IMHO... they are just chasing their tails and spitting in the wind. Hmmmm...all I got to say. Hehehehehaha! TIME will tell. Play some video games Michael and chill out. ;D
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Post by Silver MoonWolf on Aug 9, 2006 7:45:43 GMT -5
I agree with Dancing Bear, as I follow the path of Wicca I do not believe that Hell exists. I believe that man is responsible for all the evil that happens in the world and in the spirit world. negative spirits are created by the dark thoughts and deeds of man and if you learn to live a more positive light you would not even give a second thought to these negative spirits. The reason that I do not believe in hell is as DB has said, once you die your spirit travels to the Summerland where it contemplates the lessons learned in your last lifetime and then eventually your soul is reborn into another body to learn more life lessons again. You keep dying, learning, and rebirthing until you have learned all you need to know and then you will finally ascend and not be reborn again. So in my belief there is no hell because only man has the need to be punished and it is not in the grand scheme of the Lord and Lady to punish us when we need to learn from our mistakes to better ourselves.
As for actually contacting a negative spirit there is a Wiccan rule you should follow, "Do not call up what you cannot send down". Basically unless you can control the spirit and be able to send it away when needed you should not even call it in the first place or you could end up in more trouble than what you bargained for.
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Post by ladybleu on Aug 9, 2006 13:52:44 GMT -5
;D The man, Jesus of Galilee has already done that. Do you feel he did not do a good enough job! By the way, it took him thirty years to prepare and he had all the angels backing him. The man Jesus walked the Razor's Path for all of us and did away with what was the dimensions of hell and the fallen angels/demons that had their dewlling there. Ascension has been accomplished for planet Earth; all that's left is for each soul to realized that. Remember time is an illusion. I suppose there might be some other planet out there that is in trouble and in need of a Savior/Christ. Michael, you could possibly use this lifetime to prepare to become the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to some other dying planet, but this one has been saved already even though there are a lot of want-a-bes in this world that are trying there best to undo what has been acomplished. IMHO... they are just chasing their tails and spitting in the wind. Hmmmm...all I got to say. Hehehehehaha! TIME will tell. Play some video games Michael and chill out. ;D I agree with this, especially the chill out part, good grief!
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Post by michael on Aug 9, 2006 18:11:40 GMT -5
The Underworld The underworld is hidden in the earth. It is the kingdom of the dead and ruled over by Hades. Hades is a greedy god who is greatly concerned with increasing his subjects. Those whose calling increase the number of dead are seen favorably. The Erinyes are welcomed guests. He is exceedingly disinclined to allow any of his subjects leave. For most, life in the underworld is not particularly unpleasant. It is rather like a miserable dream, full of shadows, without sunlight or hope. A joyless place where the dead slowly fade into nothingness. Geographically, the underworld is surrounded by a series of rivers: The Acheron (river of woe), The Cocytus (river of lamentation), The Phlegethon (river of fire), The Styx (river of unbreakable oath by which the gods swear), and The Lethe (river of forgetfulness). Once across the rivers an adamantine gate, guarded by Cerberus, forms the entrance to the kingdom. Deep within the kingdom is Hades vast palace, complete with many guests. Upon death a soul is lead by Hermes to the entrance of the underworld and the ferry across the Acheron. There is a single ferry run by Charon to take the souls across the river. Only those who can pay the fare, with coins placed on their lips when buried, receive passage. The rest are trapped between two worlds. The souls then enter through the gates. Cerberus will allow all to enter but, none to leave. The souls then appear before a panel of three judges, Rhadamanthus, Minos I, and Aeacus, who pass sentence. The very good go to the Elysian Fields. Others are singled out for special treatment. Sisyphus and Tantalus being prime examples of the later. homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/Underworldmap.htmledweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/GG/place.html
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Post by Dancing Bear on Aug 9, 2006 21:06:49 GMT -5
Michael we create our own reality.. You have created yours. Greek Mythology is just that Myth!! You wonder where do all those condemmed screaming souls go then if not to the underworld.. They are the lost Spirit "Mediums" try to help to the light..
You must look at the history of man, and politics... Heaven and hell were created to keep order and good little citizens who feared the underworld, who feared hell and made a conscious effort to be good to avoid going to hell or the underworld in the afterlife... Because there are masses out there that really do not know right from wrong.. Order was needed, control of the masses was needed to rule an empire.. I realise people need something to believe in,, But as I said We create our own worlds, by deciding what to believe in..
Being a True Seer is not dancing with the negative side.
A True Seers job to bring light into the world..Look at Ghandi, Buddha, Jesus, Etc.. They did not dance with Negative at all, they promoted The Light... They Danced in the LIght.
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Post by michael on Aug 9, 2006 21:17:25 GMT -5
I've watched the portal to the underworld sea of dead bodies. It was in my old haunted house that the portal appeared on the carpet all night. Humans might of created it with magick. And my higher self must of protected me not to dair step onto the portal.
I don't need to prove myself anymore. I've proved my point lol.
If you don't believe me lol. Dancing bear you have my permission to view my life as a child and you will get the answer.
And greeks had the ritual to fight in the arena so they will die and enter the underworld.
Yes I am a seer. It only takes time when I will reach the top.
I would like to dance with both. The spiritual thing to do is to love your enemies( negs) aswell as the postives.
The measurement of being spirtual is the amount of friends you have. That's because we have the power to connect with all life.
That's the rule of ascension. Love everyone. Be one with all. Help others because they are a part of you and your a part of them. This is the rule in the ascension world.
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Post by michael on Aug 9, 2006 21:34:08 GMT -5
It's what you belief Dancing Bear. If you believe your free from believes then your free from hell.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Aug 9, 2006 22:33:02 GMT -5
Thats it Micheal.. If you free yourself and get Your OWN truth you are free from the confines of heaven and hell, and you can soar.
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Post by michael on Aug 10, 2006 2:44:51 GMT -5
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Post by firefly on Aug 12, 2006 0:19:34 GMT -5
Uhh, what? no. OMG funny!
Black magick is the world of men, Men are black magicians!
When we truly help ourselves, then there is no longer need to help anyone else. Our idea of self-importance is what gives the illusion that others need help. In truth, the ones you wish to help, and judge as inferior, for whatever reason, have the same chance as yourself at attaining all that matters, freedom. We wish to help others, so we can feel good about how great we are.
Only you can fall into a lower dimension of 'Earth', and though it may appear like the world is with you, they are not. Yup, misery does love company, but the only company misery gets, is the same misery. If you find yourself in the world you have envisioned, just remember these words, "you are dead, and in hell".
but aaaanyways, what a load of crap. See, this is why Men are black magicians.
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