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Post by tombo on Apr 25, 2006 3:33:46 GMT -5
Hello Everybody
I do have a couple of important question which I would like to ask for a friend which has some very odd experiences and I guess it would really mean a lot to her if you could help me gain some insight.
I go on and describe a little what she experiences:
If she meditates (concentrates on the breath) she very quickly feels like very far away. In this state she strongly feels the presence of something other and that something is trying to touch her, she said she feels this very precise like somebody is standing behind her and touching her and then she starts to feel that something wants to get out of her breast! She has to start crying without any apparent reason.. This thing in her breast tries to get “out” and her Body tries to let it go and she just passively observes this tug of war. During this she feels like she is gone suffocate. She also tried to contact that thing and not to be afraid but then feelings become even more oppressive and she feels like she can’t breath anymore. After that experience her body was trembling strongly for over 10 minutes. This seems to happen every time she tries to meditate.
-She also feels the presence of dead People in some places and she has to leave cause she can’t endure it.
-She has also a lot of foreseeing dreams.
She doesn’t know anything about this experiences and has the following questions:
-What is happening with her?
-Can these Perceptions harm her?
-How can she protect herself from that?
-Can these other beings harm her?
-And what kind of things tries to escape from her?
-Were can she learn more about these things?
Help would be appreciated!
Thanks everybody! Tom
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Post by Dancing Bear on Apr 25, 2006 5:20:25 GMT -5
HI Tom Welcome to Other Worlds haven't seen you around.. Your friend ...what is she meditating on.. You need to protect yourself with a little prayer if you are reaching out rather than going within.. I always ask for my guides, guardian angels for protection and ask for only the highest communications, for the highest good sent with Love.. When i have finished I always thank my guides and Guardian Angels for their help.. I also always close off imagining a door closing on the top of my head..I pretty much do this for both going inwards and outwards. I think her being touch is her guardian Angel watching over her, this is why nothing more has eventuated from this other than what she is experiencing.. I also think what is trying to escape is a past, past emotions.. I am only guessing on that one as i do not know this person.. I do not think for one minute it would be a separate entity trying to escape... I work with my own past lives and sometimes this could be a past incarnation memories that needs closure... I would personally find a Spiritual group around in your area and seek help.. SHe may benefit from a structured meditation lessons, and also there may be someone... as there always is to talk to on these matters..When you are into this sort of stuff it is hard to resist a good conversation.. it is very hard over the net to actually pinpoint what is going on here with your friend. Find a Spiritual Group, Spiritual church, Local Spiritual bookshop normally has numbers of locals in the area that conduct meditations and Spiritual enlightenment groups.. I wish your friend all the Luck and a Safe journey.. Love and Light  |
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Post by crazycat on Apr 26, 2006 0:49:03 GMT -5
It sounds to me like she is spontaneous projecting, that is her astral body is separating from the physical, something that a lot of us here on this forum try hard to do often and it does not always come easy for us.
Many of those who are experienced with having out-of-body experiences say we all project every night when we sleep, but just not aware of it. When she meditates she goes into that alpha trance state that we are in when we sleep. Many people project from their heart chakra. In my opinion that is what is happening. The entities around her are like Dancing Bear says, most likey her spirit guides or guardian angel.
A great book that would help her in getting a good understanding of this is William Buhlman's book Adventures Beyond the Body.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Apr 26, 2006 5:16:53 GMT -5
I'm glad you were familiar with this Crazy Cat  |
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Post by tombo on Apr 26, 2006 6:42:30 GMT -5
Thanks!
Yes true havent been around lately, i would like to be here more often but have a lot of things going on. You are all very kind here though, so I shall try to be here more often!
I will tell her about your advises and see what she thinks
C u Tom
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Post by osiris on Apr 26, 2006 17:11:15 GMT -5
I think cc has it. That was my first thoughts and if she is a "natural" than spontaneous obe would occur. The dreams with forsight fits exactly also.
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Post by michael on May 12, 2006 21:47:14 GMT -5
To me this is the sign of the negative entity attachment in the chest area.
The neg has troubles leaving the body.
That's why he is saying Im trying to get out of her breast.
If this person is suffering from attacks such as...
Nocturnal Dreams
Physic Attack
Go to the local Shaman or Practitioner and get some help for neg removal.
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Post by crazycat on May 13, 2006 0:22:25 GMT -5
I don't know Michael, it seeems to me it would be the other way around. Negative entities would be wanting to get in and possess your body not trying to get out. When I had my experience where I was able to feel the whole separation process, my astral body just kind of peeled from my solar Plexus area, almost had a of sense of it being like child birth, except there was no pain. I do leave from my heart chakra area too.
The presense behind her has all intentation of being a spirit guide. Hmmm...I read back over the post and it does not say anything about it speaking.
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Post by michael on May 13, 2006 1:49:50 GMT -5
Believe me
Negative entities attach to human beings
It's a struggle for them to seperate from the physical body when they get stuck
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Post by dman on May 13, 2006 10:38:00 GMT -5
Believe me Negative entities attach to human beings It's a struggle for them to seperate from the physical body when they get stuck Is this more illumanati stuff?? Do you think negs attach to positive people with a high resonance? I don't think negs attach to people but we attach them to us. By being 'negative' perhaps attracts them to us, attracted to the same resonance, or even creates them. It is easy to rid of a 'negative' energy, don't focus on it as being 'negative'. Focus on positive, direct your attention to positive things, like Love. If you think the 'neg' is trapped inside you, stuck, then you have just encaged it.. It is quite common, and very understandable, for fear to get the better of us. Ever see something in the dark, and think is was something horrible, just to turn on the light and see it was just a stump, or a ball of clothes, etc. Our power to see something as anything we want is great, and our power to damage ourselves with what we see, and to create, is equally as great. Do not be encaged by fears! |
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Post by michael on May 15, 2006 4:47:06 GMT -5
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Is this more illumanati stuff??
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Do you think negs attach to positive people with a high resonance?
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I don't think negs attach to people but we attach them to us.
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By being 'negative' perhaps attracts them to us, attracted to the same resonance, or even creates them.
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Yes that's true, but judgementally Im not that negative humanly possible
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It is easy to rid of a 'negative' energy, don't focus on it as being 'negative'. Focus on positive, direct your attention to positive things, like Love.
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Are you talking from experience?
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If you think the 'neg' is trapped inside you, stuck, then you have just encaged it..
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Is there such a word as encaged?
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Post by dman on May 15, 2006 13:09:11 GMT -5
Hi Michael,
I am very sorry to hear you are incapable of love at a high frequency. This is sad for me to hear. Is this a symptom of medication, or are you saying that you simply do not love? I only ask because I am confused.. I can not understand this belief, or why you would think such things?
I find from my experiences it is often occurances from the past that hinder our ability for such things, and we must let go of such past beliefs, in order to move forward. Gav has a post in called the "Shackles of Experience", that I found a good read.
All I am saying is that our beliefs, form knowings, through our agreements to make them so, and so we have the ability, though often not easy, to disregard such beliefs, evaluate them, and see them for what they really are.
Yes encaged is a word, it is "To confine in a cage; to coop up".
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Post by dman on May 15, 2006 15:02:35 GMT -5
Q- Have I been the 'victim' of psychic attack?
A- Haven't we all? At point or another? I have often undergone severe attacks that nearly ended my life. However I no longer see myslef as a 'victim' of anothers attack, but of my own attacks. It is always an agreement we have made to be this victim. We choose it, by observing ourselves as 'victims'. In the same manner we agree to be the 'attackers' as well. It is a choice to be aware or to be asleep.
Awareness is the key, we can allow others to 'control' us, or we can 'control' ourselves through self-observation, and the observation of others. By being aware of the thoughts in our mind, and tracking them back to the source, we can lay them to rest, and redirect. All the time while laughing.
"The humanform is a conglomerate of energy fields which exists in the universe, and which relate excusively to human beings. Shamans call it the human form because those energy fields have been bent and contorted by a lifetime of habits and misuse"
"Any habit needs all its part inorder to function. If some parts are mising, the habit is dissassembled"
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Post by dman on May 15, 2006 15:19:59 GMT -5
It is our choice how we observe our fellow 'man'. You may choose to precieve me as your enemy, and get very upset in my 'attacks'. Or you may choose to precieve me as a friend who possibly has help to offer. You may remember my posts to you back in the day as Zayin?
Anyways, the choice we make how to precieve another, is our choice, so I suggest choosing the preception that incurs the least amount of energy expenditure, so it can be directed to the best possible use for you. We only have so much energy to direct at a time.
I assure you that when we view every person as a teacher, no matter who they may be, the lessons we can gain are endless. Everyword spoken to us can be spoken directly to your spirit, everywhere is a sign, or an omen, if we can open our spirit to seeing.
We can focus solely on what life has to offer us, or we focus solely on what life to take from us, and in my opinion, we need to see both.
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Post by dman on May 15, 2006 18:21:48 GMT -5
Even when someone is yelling at us and calling us names, it is not negative. It is our greatest chance to better ourselves, and observe how these actions make us feel. If we are angry it is because our ego's are hurt. Our self-importance would have us believe that we do not deseve to be treated such ways. Yet we are no better than the person who is shouting. They have the same ability to attain what we can attain.
Often when we look for attacks and that is what we will see, even if the person is not making an attack at all, we can look into words and see whatever we want to see, we can quite often see something calling us 'stupid', or egotistical, or naive, when that is not the purpose at all..
We spend so much energy fueling our ego, that are within our mind.
They say that love has no limit?
What are limitations, but within the mind?
Is love a product of the mind, or a product of the spirit?
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Post by osiris on May 17, 2006 15:59:00 GMT -5
To have a true neg attach itself you have to accept it in some way or another. It cannot just do it alone. If that was so than when we projected we would come back to find all sorts of nasties waiting on us. No we have to allow them. or in the extreme case with more powewrful beings we make deals with them. That does not mean that someone spoken to in the astral will not follow you around for a while. Yes Illuminati stuff and golden dawn and on and on. The more we illuminate the negs with our pure love the less they come aound until they find an easier apponant. Scrying can show you all the same affect as well. Never make any deals period.
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