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Post by Lena on Sept 26, 2010 1:56:17 GMT -5
The reason I'm starting this thread is basically cause I needed to vent a little, so it seemed like a good excuse. Once in a while, I will go into this semi-depressed state, actually lately it has more overtones of anger, than depression. It's like I let stuff build up for a while and then it comes pouring it out, crying and just being angry at people, like really really angry. I feel so sensitive at times and like I take things way too seriously, and sometimes I look at people, and wish that I would be more easy going, ya know, like not take things so close to heart. I think I get even more upset because I overdo junk food and you know, it's a vicious cycle.
Vent over then.
Back to my question. Have you guys noticed that your emotional states affect your dreams and in what way? Abraham, channeled by Esther Hicks, say that dreams show you what vibrational level you are attracting from. Basically, if you are having sad dreams, then your emotional state is attracting things you don't want. If you have happy dreams, you are attracting things you do want. I'm not sure about that because sometimes when I said I will have a happy dream that will lift me up a bit or the other way around.
Also, having to do with dream recall, I noticed that when I get into a lot of heavy, negative emotions (including apathy, which can be interpreted as a lack of emotions), my dream recall really decreases. But my husband said that when he was a heavy drinker, he would have all kinds of lucid dreams and dream recall. I find, that the easiest way for me to start remembering dreams again is to lighten up. Lightening up can be done through dietary choices, for example. When I was eating completely raw diet, I remembered lots more dreams and they were amazingly clear. Of course, it maybe that it's not the food itself that does it but my belief in how it affects me and my passion for eating that way, that permeates my life.
So what effect do emotions have on dreams?
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Post by ~~section8... on Sept 26, 2010 11:57:18 GMT -5
Ohhh. *Hug* I think I feel the same way at times. I somehow get sucked into a vortex and keep feeding it with my own negative thoughts and can't climb out. It's terrible. I feel better now that I've moved back to college, but this summer was.... no good. Even last summer was bad, I remember just laying on the floor after work everyday and crying for an hour. You need to climb out of it somehow. I think dietary changes are a good idea because junk food just sucks away your energy. I think mainly though, it's changing your thought process. For every one negative thought, you have to think two positive thoughts. Emotional stability comes with time though, that's why old people are so chill and why my mom shrugs off everything like it ain't no thang. I think emotional states do effect your dreams. This summer I had a lot of dreams where people were hurting me (e.g. abused by a man in my life). If I had any happy dreams, I would just wake up depressed from them because my "dream was a lie." I don't remember whether I remembered more dreams or less...I think I didn't care as much to pay attention to them so it faded away a little.
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SiderealWraith
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Post by SiderealWraith on Sept 26, 2010 21:59:43 GMT -5
I'm fairly sure there's a more highly complex system underlying our dietary intake. For instance, I remember of this story (dunno how valid) about some scientist researching the effects of LSD at varying strengths on shamans. Well the scientist was baffled... After giving small, ineffective doses at first he then gave this shaman doses heavy enough to make the average person wildly mad, and... the shaman laughs at him, seemingly unaffected by these drugs. The scientist couldn't reason why the doses he administered weren't turning the man into a looney toon, but other 'new age' hypotheses were that the shaman was vibrating at too high a frequency to have a great reaction to otherwise harmful chemicals. So, if you consume all the health-retardant ingredients in junk food during a lower state you will be at their mercy biologically. However if you vibrated at a greater wavelength then you may eat the same foods but suffer less side-effects they elicit. The same goes with liquids. With the right intention one may convert a poison into a medicine or polluted drinking water into better water. Perhaps the shaman did something similar to the drug he was given.
With regard to that maybe one is unwittingly intensifying the damage done to one's health by acknowledging the badness of the food, but deliberately denying it (equal to not caring). We should all know that in denying something it is made stronger; poor health is further magnified. In addition, being happy and unhealthy is pretty difficult. Not to mention the added stressors of everyday living. Hence, dreams are said to mostly reflect waking life and as such the apathy may lead to blackness and silence in dreams (interpreted as no dreams) and the depression may lead to wish-fulfillment (the happy dreams that are a lie) or gloomy/ attack dreams (sadness eating away at you).
This question isn't directed at you specifically Lena, but do you think that one with an extremely open mind can change their mindset very easily? Everything is about perception/ point-of-view. How one feels in the lifeworld depend on their take. Do you know what causes you sorrow? or the need to find fleeting comfort in food? If it's something that can be changes, aren't the options a better risk than heart attack? If something that can't be changed, do your best to remove yourself from it (in mind if not body).
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Post by Lena on Sept 27, 2010 1:04:53 GMT -5
the shaman laughs at him, seemingly unaffected by these drugs. The scientist couldn't reason why the doses he administered weren't turning the man into a looney toon, but other 'new age' hypotheses were that the shaman was vibrating at too high a frequency to have a great reaction to otherwise harmful chemicals. So, if you consume all the health-retardant ingredients in junk food during a lower state you will be at their mercy biologically. However if you vibrated at a greater wavelength then you may eat the same foods but suffer less side-effects they elicit. The same goes with liquids. With the right intention one may convert a poison into a medicine or polluted drinking water into better water. Perhaps the shaman did something similar to the drug he was given. Excellent point. I was thinking about that very thing today, if the higher we are vibrating, the less effect any poisons have on the body. It makes sense intuitively, although I noticed people, who eat healthy for a long time become more sensitive to foods as well as their environment. For example, after being raw for several months, eating some cooked food can make you sick. I've experienced that myself, not to a large extent, but being very uncomfortable after just eating some beans. I'm not that sensitive now though, but more sensitive than before. I firmly believe we do create our reality, so with that said, there is levels of awareness. Highly advanced individual, such as an ascended master, will not much care for any kinds of physical disturbances in this world, but in a regular person, who goes through their life without much awareness, creating their own reality happens more at an unconscious level. Oh, and I believe wish-fulfillment dreams are encouragement and actually a sign that things can improve. Lie is a very tricky word, since we are multi-dimension being. What's a lie in our dimension may be very true in another and therefore can be true in ours as well ;D I hope I'm not contradicting myself, when I say that I create my own reality and then post a rant about a bad day. I do believe that since I'm still physical and definitely not an ascended master, I'll have my moments of humanness. Question does become then "Why do I create this particular reality?" That's the question for me to answer.
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Post by Lena on Sept 27, 2010 1:15:01 GMT -5
Ohhh. *Hug* I think I feel the same way at times. I somehow get sucked into a vortex and keep feeding it with my own negative thoughts and can't climb out. It's terrible. I feel better now that I've moved back to college, but this summer was.... no good. Even last summer was bad, I remember just laying on the floor after work everyday and crying for an hour. You need to climb out of it somehow. I think dietary changes are a good idea because junk food just sucks away your energy. I think mainly though, it's changing your thought process. For every one negative thought, you have to think two positive thoughts. Emotional stability comes with time though, that's why old people are so chill and why my mom shrugs off everything like it ain't no thang. I think emotional states do effect your dreams. This summer I had a lot of dreams where people were hurting me (e.g. abused by a man in my life). If I had any happy dreams, I would just wake up depressed from them because my "dream was a lie." I don't remember whether I remembered more dreams or less...I think I didn't care as much to pay attention to them so it faded away a little. I can relate to letting my dreams fade away. I went through periods of disliking my dreams so much, I didn't want to write them down. Those feelings disappear, as things shift towards more positive in my life. Just a disclaimer for everyone: I'm not depressed and my junk food excursions are quite rare, at least overall that's the case. I do have some emotional stuff I'm working on. Funny thing is as I try more to be happy, the more stuff comes up to be cleared away. Perhaps that is part of emotional and physical detoxing? Or perhaps, moving towards more happiness, I am less tolerant of problems that were there to begin with.
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Post by ~~section8... on Sept 27, 2010 14:46:29 GMT -5
That's fascinating Siderealwraith. That would be amazing if that's true. Where did you hear it? I never would think you are depressed, Lena. You wouldn't be here if you were.
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Post by Lena on Sept 27, 2010 17:18:42 GMT -5
I hope I'm not contradicting myself, when I say that I create my own reality and then post a rant about a bad day. I do believe that since I'm still physical and definitely not an ascended master, I'll have my moments of humanness. Question does become then "Why do I create this particular reality?" That's the question for me to answer. More on this topic. I'm reading Dreams, Evolution and Value Fulfillment right now and Jane Roberts struggled with this very issue herself, which is "If I create my own reality, why can't I make it work in this area of my life?" For her, that area was her worsening health. Interestingly, her last Seth book Way Towards Health is very controversial because it has a lot of her own struggles with health, that she passes away from. Reportedly, although I didn't get to reading it yet, Seth also said that Jane made the decision to stay, but then she passed away anyhow. She, of course, was more or less in public eye, while going through this, and she felt guilt and responsibility to model this philosophy of hers that she was bringing through. Perhaps even with access to superconsciousness like Seth, we can't always point out our exact motivations with why we manifest certain things, especially the ones that we seemingly would not consciously choose. Or perhaps, as we gain consciousness, we will glean more and more insight into our own actions. I believe Venus Andrecht calls it God Awake. Oh, and here's her simple philosophy framework, by the way. I just think it's soo simple, but I agree: "God is always happy. God is always glad. God is always happy because It is always experiencing Itself. We are all God. Everything is God. God is not bad. God is not good. God simply Is. God is always the question. And God is always the answer."
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Post by ~~section8... on Sept 28, 2010 13:18:00 GMT -5
Very interesting. Your own personal reality, it seems, is the hardest to control even if it is your own. I still have difficulty getting insight on my actions. That's why we're here though right, gaining that access into our subconscious minds? That's a very real and positive poem.
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Post by existenceisadream on Sept 29, 2010 3:20:58 GMT -5
God is always happy. God is always glad. God is always happy because It is always experiencing Itself. We are all God. Everything is God. God is not bad. God is not good. God simply Is. God is always the question. And God is always the answer." I like this. This is what I relate to. And why shouldn't I since I'm god... along with everything else in existence.
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Post by nani on Sept 29, 2010 11:23:10 GMT -5
for me of course (daily moods and) emotions do effect my dream-life very much. I think that our "reality" finally also only is a dream - so one dream has influence on the other. What im thinking about is.. i think many think about, that god.. also is un-happy, un-glad and so on as nothing can exist what is not god - if we speak about god in the sense of *essencial energy or being permeating all and everything* that is what comes when i mentally think about, but when i feel... referring to all the terrible things and violence on this world, then of course i can not keep this "believe" or whatever it is, a rationell recognition maybe only. Anyway, maybe just somehow *duality* roll eyes
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Post by existenceisadream on Sept 29, 2010 20:11:43 GMT -5
God is always happy. God is always glad. God is always happy because It is always experiencing Itself. We are all God. Everything is God. God is not bad. God is not good. God simply Is. God is always the question. And God is always the answer." I like this. This is what I relate to. And why shouldn't I since I'm god... along with everything else in existence. I've been thinking about this and feel it's a bit misleading... Not to take away from the positive affirmation aspect of it... but it seems unfair to say that god is always happy and glad but not add that god is always unhappy and sad. Because to me the real deal is that god is everything at once. No reason to single out the joyful aspects of god and cover up the sorrowful ones. I do agree with the "god is not bad, god is not good" Because it has to either be put like that or like "god is bad, god is good" Because to me both statements are saying the exact same thing. Which again is that god is everything. Which when you look at it, it's all a big contradiction. How can something be bad and good at the same time? Right and wrong and the same time? Happy and sad at the same time? And so on. But that's WHAT IT IS! Maybe because we're all still trying to use words to make sense and and explain our existence. When it's just not possible. It's our emotions that control all this. Get rid of that and right and wrong and happy and sad all go out the door.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Sept 30, 2010 5:36:34 GMT -5
"yes it seems like....oooo it feels like a brand new day"!!! ;D brand new day by van morrison the song has literally took my being over,....now by this positivity coming in its actually manipulating my emotions..."emotions" I really want to start a debate about our emotions because they are so easily manipulated and I guess I see them as a boundary more than a gateway as of lately... so a bipolar person walks into this forum and posts the most positive experience, just because he "feels" that way at the time... does that mean its legate?? not realy...in fact most of our "emotions" drive from our mental state, so I think dreams are actually shadowing a fragment of what we really are when we opperate on feeling, I think its more about our overall thoughts and thinking process...is it negative or positive?? how we percieve things will weigh itself over how we feel, because we can feel differantly rather fast almost within the next second...however thoughts that we give thought to over and over agian create a kind of coating to our emotions..which honestly I beleive creates the feeling itself over time... I have said this 8500 times now I know lol but I am starting to see that everything is based on intuituin and thought....and thought is only there to process it. emotions are a part of the physical.... soo basicly im trying to rely on something more contingent, my gut! and honestly I think thats where this dreaming stuff started and also myself because I followed something else, not emotion, nope nothing really but my inner self , I remember my twin sister would always be around the adults and I would go off on my own and take an adventure on my bike or whatever, and I thought even as a kid that I wanted to find something more... and it was in me the entire time lol..so I realized this after a while and I just followed it, and it wasnt emotion, it was something more, it was a knowing and at the same time it was a question but the odd thing is I knew it laid inside of me not a reaction to the outside world(emotion), I dont know maybe thats why I left my body at such a young age, I just knew what to follow I guess and learned that this world was temporary, so I took what I had inside of me and gave it a chance, and sure enought it showed me ,....me....and i was sooo young lol and I saw myself in a mirror next to my bed and I knew it was me and I knew what was happenign than, I knew my awareness was opening up like a sponge...and the real reality began to show trhough and I was so excited, I told my twin sister about it and she said, "omg what if you walked off, and couldnt find yourself" lol it was than I realized the size of myself and mankind and all its dominance over the physical including emotions.. its kikda like ideas in your head that ultimatly create a feeling you want to feel.. Idk its hard to explain really, but we are simply washed up creatures that have no idea what they are doing lol thats why we study the earth and sea for answers but its cool really because its defining how long we lived here vs the planet and we all know the planet wins, sooo my suggestion is we are an old race I know it may sound crazy but I really beleive we are an old race that came here to evolve years and years ago...we choose this planet because it has potential for growth here, ...and the more I think about it...our evolution is not in vain. we came here to do some crazy things but one of them is to create a cyborg of ourselves where we live forever...Ill start a thread on technology because I know there are many things to see in it in order to see the whole. back to the dreaming when i think of my mom...omg its almost as emotions dont exist because I cry whenever i see her in my dreams...good or bad.. this has brought me to another post i wanna make really bad.. im gonna go do that....just bare with me because this is gonna be hard for me. see I think emotions only exist here...kinda like good an evil...they both are man made IMO. in fact emotions are a limitation if you think aboutt it, they restrict you and bind you to thinking love is lost if you lost love...
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