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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 9, 2005 8:14:08 GMT -5
does evil truly exist? or is it something we yet created just as many other "things" of this planet..  |
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Post by blank on Jun 9, 2005 9:18:42 GMT -5
No good and evil dont exist, or more for them to exist you must believe in a organised religion in short god and satan or proper deitys.
In my opinion there are actions you can take which will build you as a person and those around you, likewise there are actions which will destroy or damage you or those around you. We are the victims of our own choices... or the choices of those we choose to be around
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 9, 2005 9:34:06 GMT -5
yeah I agree, well I think that evil, just as good just as anything else is man made and only exists because we created it...this go's with anything else for that matter love,joy, pain, what have you..
but most will argue that evil is something yes an actual "thing" when it is clear that it is not, it is our own makiing,doing...
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Post by blank on Jun 9, 2005 18:49:55 GMT -5
this go's with anything else for that matter love,joy, pain, what have you.. really? what makes you say that? |
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 9, 2005 19:20:02 GMT -5
becuase most of theses things are created through a state of mind ,think aobut it, it also these are too considered things of the physical plane..
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 9, 2005 19:21:07 GMT -5
it all go's with the illusion of reality...the only reason we know these things exsit is because the mind projects them to..
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Post by blank on Jun 10, 2005 8:39:18 GMT -5
it all go's with the illusion of reality...the only reason we know these things exsit is because the mind projects them to.. The illusion of reality or the production of reality as seen by us the ultimate observer? Is it really the mind which creates these experiences? I know that it is the mind that triggers them, But good and evil are concepts with strong emotional attachments to them, be careful not to confuse emotions with a buzzwords like evil |
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 10, 2005 8:51:43 GMT -5
well this is only my beleif that evil is something we have created, for example, the mind is so powerful that it can create emotions, such as love,..we may "think" we are in love, however only to find out we were not all along...perhaps that is what im trying to say here, but I do agree that some feelings we can not put in this illusion catagory, because feelings of course are the foundation ,and the mind is the intepreter,transferer of emotions/feelings, it is hard to see the differance sometimes, but I think that we need a balance in order to fully understand both our feelings and thoughts..
but you see I am beganing to think that all words are things as well, so in that case love,joy,pain,bliss,evil,good all have things attached to them from the word itself, so it has than already manifested into a "thing" of the physical...by human thoughts,I think honestly sometimes even our emotions are illusions this is what im saying here again that the mind has that potetial..
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Post by blank on Jun 10, 2005 9:11:40 GMT -5
well this is only my beleif that evil is something we have created, for example, the mind is so powerful that it can create emotions, such as love,..we may "think" we are in love, however only to find out we were not all along...  intruiging so you class evil as an emotion? It is good to see that you have a strong understanding or belief in the power of mind do you know much about bioloigy, or about what goes on inside our body? Do you want to be in the mystery or in the know? |
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 10, 2005 9:50:07 GMT -5
hey I like your avatar, where did you get it?? its cool, anyway, I know little of biology, and I wish to know and have mystery..lol
but I seek wisdom and knowledge and I am never set in my beleifs ya know, since im always growing changine so are my beleifs, so I try to remain as open as possible..
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Post by blank on Jun 10, 2005 10:17:57 GMT -5
Got my avatar off google like ya told me to
Lets start with the trigger, your mind. In you mind you have constructed a network of nurons(spel?) which are wired to what constitutes love for example.
In the back of your brain at the base is a rather advanced pharmarcy (hypothalmus) which produces short chains of amino acids which I think they're called peptides, when the constructed network in your head fires off it send a signal to the hypothalmus telling it that its time to feel love. the approiate peptide chains are then assembled and released into the body.
The peptide chains then reach the cells in your body which have thousands of little recepters on the surface, much like a lock and key the peptide chain docks on the surface and the recepter then locks into place. A cell with a peptide chain docked on it's surface behaves differently and the internal chemistry of the cell is somtimes altered, your made up of cells and cells are the smallest unit of concionuess.
ever feel the rush of it happening? I have
If someone denies you what you need to feel love, then doesnt it stand to reason that you'd fall out of love with them
oh and btw heroin uses the same cell recptors that your emotions do, so you can see why some people recreate the same situations and constantly have the same relationship and like to live today as if it was yesterday.
but, emotions are the colours which enrich the taperstry of life, its only when you cant control your emotional state that you should start to wonder
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 10, 2005 10:45:11 GMT -5
interesting...yeah I agree, however I still think that we can create these emotions by thoughts, simply by fascinating over them..ya know, fantasizing, if you will..of course not all feelings are illusions, perhaps the majority of them are actual reactions to thoughts..as you said above.
but I don't think everything can be explained on a sceintific spectrum, somethings remain unknown,like flashes of insights,feelings that come out of no where, things like that, I still beleive that the subcosncious is the underlying reason for these things,deja vu, psychic information,feelings that seem to attack us ya know, its just strange to me how the body and mind communicate, sometimes I think it is beyond us..
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Post by nikkineil6 on Jun 12, 2005 7:26:09 GMT -5
evil to me is another way that a person puts a label on their opinion or beliefs. and since opinions and beliefs are personal how can anyone truly know the meaning or understand a true concept of evil
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 12, 2005 8:22:24 GMT -5
hey Jeana, yeah I agree again, think about it, a child only knows bad and good because it is taught to them, what is it never was taught, or even thought of. we are all truely innocent and yet not at the same time..
oh and jeana I had to delete one of your posts because you made two of them lol...
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Post by nikkineil6 on Jun 12, 2005 9:21:41 GMT -5
whoops, i'm sorry. i appreciate you taking care of that for me. fixing breakfast, trying to things ready for the shower, posting on here, and discussing the things we got at the flea market with chase...........ah heck never mind just more excusese to cover up a simple mistake. haha
thanks again
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 12, 2005 10:37:22 GMT -5
lol thats okay no worries..haha, have fun!!
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Post by blank on Jun 13, 2005 5:11:20 GMT -5
the explanation is as emotions, purely physical emotions are created and experienced in our body. The deja vu, insight and other phenoma you mentioned had no good scientific explination as far as I know
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 13, 2005 7:51:33 GMT -5
I honestly think that the emotions are attached to the subconscious, and that deep within us, these emotions communcate to us, because in deja vu, its mostly a feeling that comes over me, than the images appear, but i dont realy get images, I create them with my feelings..does that make sense?
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Post by blank on Jun 14, 2005 8:01:47 GMT -5
Deja vu, your talking about when you see somthing happen and you know youve seen it before, or somthing happens and you know what happens next but before you can find the memory of it the event has already played out
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Jun 14, 2005 8:20:41 GMT -5
yep, I wonder sometimes if these occurances are connected to the subconscous, I think highly they are, and in fact it could even be that our subconscious has all information stored, again since it is connected to everything..we have all the answers,, just have to dig to get them
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intruiging so you class evil as an emotion? It is good to see that you have a strong understanding or belief in the power of mind