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Post by dman on Jun 3, 2006 12:58:40 GMT -5
Thank you, soo very cool. You could give classes by the sounds of it. You could go in a deep voice and calming instruct the room into deep states, I sure of it. Sheesh as I was reading it I started getting flows of energy, too sool! Yeah when I first was getting kundalini it was sometimes painful, and I found whever I tried to direct the energy, it would get stuck, feeli terrible, and invoke many fears. Then I kinda said the hell with it, and so now I usually just allow it to flow into my entire body, from the spine. Sometimes it is hard to walk, but incredibly awesome. I have no choice sometimes, but to implement 'passes', or 'taichi' movements, yet they are different, kind of like a 'power move'. My body is always tensed to the max while doing this too. So very neato! Actually it is kicking up now, what'd'ya know! Last night after reading this I started directing it like you said, and it just increased it even more, so thas great my friend. Big help. While directing it I was 'trying' at first, so it didn't work sool. But since the flow will flow regrdedless of 'trying', I just focused attention on where I wanted it to go and that seemed to help a great deal. tankya brotha man! Actually I was gonna add dis into a chanting thread, but couldn't find one, boooo, so I'll just put er in here. I find something that is incredibly awesome for for da Kundalini, is to sing, sing and sing yer little heart out. Concertrating on the different tones, and how they resonate with the chakras, and spine. It pretty sool, it is like OM chanting, which I love. Also I find my singing gets a lot better, develped a wierd tone too, that I can usually hold. Today it has been 'riders of the storm' by the doors, I love the doors.
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Post by osiris on Jun 3, 2006 14:07:26 GMT -5
The doors are one of my favorite older groups, them and the stones...Paint it black...uuuu yaaaa. Im glad i could help out man. I used to get pretty bad headaches before i opened up the lotus more. Energy would just build and my head would scream. So you sing to help. Just sing anything like your favorite tunes? Or you mostly use mantras? I really like ohhhhm Om it is the best and seems to help with anything. One night when you have all that energy, massage your brain with it then focus it all to your third eye. When your in meditation do you focus on your spine? if so do you ever have times where you have to "roll" your spine? Its hard to explain but i hope you see what i mean. like you arch your back but than it just rolls down your spine.. Thank you for the compliment man. Sometimes feel like it would be very interesting to do in a room full of people but i am one of those people that just turns white as a sheet and sweats like crazy in front of groups. Maybe if it was set up like a dojo where there were mats and stuff and i could just sit with my back to the class only seeing them in mirrors i could do it....lol...The problem is that i would want to be around the people on here forever once i met them i think...It would be an amazing learning experiance to have a full circle with everyone here and just talk and practice the night away. Tarot cards, crystals, meditations... to cool..Would be awesome on a beach with a huge fire.
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Post by serenitygarden on Jun 3, 2006 18:49:33 GMT -5
Here's a good link too for K related stuff: www.kundalini-teacher.com/They give lots of good info on Kundalini and the chakras, grounding, and different symptoms. Important to remeber though that it is different for everyone depending on blockages and or resistance. Gotta go with the flow eh? Peace ~S
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Post by osiris on Jun 3, 2006 19:04:42 GMT -5
Yup never fight with kundalini. Just like chakra work just let it happen. In the end kundalini will win anyway....The only way to deal with a complete awakening of Kundalini is acceptance.But that is a rare thing. even where animal is at is just a pinch of what completely awakened can produce. We all have a small stream of pure silver kundalini energy awake in us so we can all use it. Some choose not to because it may awaken the fire serpant completly from its slumber. Hmmm odd i came here because i fealt that someone posted... The web site is one i have not seen ill have to dig into it soon.
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Post by dman on Jun 4, 2006 14:23:09 GMT -5
Yup, I kinda roll my spine, the energy can, at times, take me over, and 'force' me to move with it. When it is intense I squirm like crazy, arching my back and stuff.
Yeah the singing I do as a mantra, I kinda allow my voice to hold the notes, it creates a wierd vibration that resonates through my body, also bringing out the kundalini energy. It feels like a second voice, a tone beneath my actual voice. I think every different tone resonates with a different centre, but I can always focus my attention on one centre if I want to. I just allow my singing, my flowing movements, and energy walks to allign my energies. Even focusing on the notes within a song, or an instrument does the same thing. Err, as long as it is not a sharp sound, like dishes or something, my gawd! And ofcourse keeping love in my heart, and the people/things I love close to my heart is the greatest distraction, and protection for me.
Nope, not odd at all. Very real in fact. It will only happen more and more too. Everywhere you go your personal power, or your body, has led you. Personal programing. You may also find that just be thinking of people, will bring them onto the forum again, even if away for some time.
Yes I agree, standing in front of people, doing a seminar, or whatever, can be nerveracking! All a state of mind though. For myself I know I have nothing to lose, I have nothing to protect, and if I have something to say, or I intent to 'guide' people, I know I need to be, and am, confident in my knowledge. It is hard, but I know also that the people who are present want to hear my voice. If we project insecurity, or are unconfident in what we say, how can we know what we say will be taken in. If we believe what we say, and are confident that what we say can help another, then it will. The people will hear this come out in your voice, in your will. Though yeah, it is not always so easy to in a 'state' like that, at any given time.. I used to have to give seminars at various intitutions, for rehabilitation and abuse counselling, and at times I was so 'racked' I felt like I would vomit! haha, but I always get through it, jus gets easier!
And besides, personally, I like a challenge!
I hear ya, everyone here is so great, and it can be difficult to find people who are into the same 'paths', I feel as you do, everyone is so great I could give a hugs hug to everyone. HUGS TO ALL!
Loriann
Absolutely! Thank you for the link..
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Post by serenitygarden on Jun 5, 2006 11:17:11 GMT -5
Here's another good one too. www.kundalini-gateway.org/It's an email list, you can connect to other K awake or awakening people and ask questions or just share and compare experiences. The teachers there have a lot of good info and so do many of the members. I was a member there for a few years. Good stuff. (Of course, there are Kundalini groups all over the net now, yahoo and MSN and forums and all of that stuff, just google and see. aye aye aye!) I met some cool people there, too. It's always nice to know, especially when you think you might be going insane, that other people go through similar things. Makes it a little bit easier to handle.
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Post by dman on Jun 6, 2006 12:52:23 GMT -5
even where animal is at is just a pinch of what completely awakened can produce. Yes I totally agree brother man, I get fearful that if I were to totally allow these energies through me, I'd burst into flames or explode or something! Oh and by the way 'Paint it Black' is a killler ass song!
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Post by osiris on Jun 7, 2006 16:28:02 GMT -5
Oooops lol Just got busted by my boss and serenities nipple rubbing avatar was the only thing showing...lol ohhh well..... I told him it was a religious forum? hay its the truth right? I knew that your stalking would do alot for kundalini. Its the primal self kicking in. Ive heard that you can damage the chakra but i dont hold much belief in it. You would have to be paying no attention and have no control of your self. Besides anytime i have a prob i just push that energy out into the ground or up. Sometimes when i push it up and out though it seems to roll right back into me 10 fold. I dont do much singing but i will say mantras outloud. Usually though under my breath our just vibrate the tone through myself. Serenity: that site i already use, but the first one you put on was very nice reading. You should put some of your chakra info into the thread (is there a chakra thread?) probably been a bunch but we always like to here about new techniques when it comes to chakra. Some chakra are blocked by some very obvious and easy to fix things. But we all have differant blocks and some that are not even recognized. I see a line of cars and there all painted black. no colors anymore i want them to turn BLACK. Dang makes me wish i was playing some paint ball or in a jungle somewhere with ......ahhh never mind....
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Post by crazycat on Jun 7, 2006 17:56:05 GMT -5
You should put some of your chakra info into the thread (is there a chakra thread?) probably been a bunch but we always like to here about new techniques when it comes to chakra. Some chakra are blocked by some very obvious and easy to fix things. But we all have differant blocks and some that are not even recognized. We do have a Chakra thread and it would be great if Serenity would put her chakra info there. lilacsky.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=study&action=display&thread=1146515518
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Post by osiris on Jun 8, 2006 16:40:55 GMT -5
Awesome cc thanks. Sometimes i just get so caught up in what ive already posted i forget to look around more.
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Post by BenHangen on Jun 30, 2006 18:31:46 GMT -5
Kundabuffer: I had to look that up but I understand in what they are saying when using that term. And why is there a different thread for kundalini and chakra? One is the embodiment of the other. I looked at one of the kundalini links listed and when they started talking about money to receive Shaktipat, I thought to my self, “these people are crazy” that is in no way the thing to do, ever. That to me is the problem with the world, not sharing the knowledge, and not having the true desire to elevate our fellow man without demanding payment. Shaktipat can be one of the most deadly sins ever or a Saintly virtue, just like any of the powers of the chakras. Here is a paste from www.kundalini-teacher.com/ Initiations. Shaktipat. The transmission of Grace from Guru to seeker to awaken or enhance Kundalini, is called Shaktipat. Someone with the ability to do this is called a Shaktipat Master. I have been a Shaktipat Master since the mid-1980s. There are degrees of Shaktipat Mastery. From "oops, I'm contagious, how did that happen?" to "here is your full awakening, all knots pierced and major blockages removed." In 1985 I was the former, now I am the latter... but it always depends on the receptivity of the recipient, and what they can handle. When the Serpent of Fire came alive within me I was a dragon on fire and the world was my pearl. The one thing that stopped me and put me in my place was conscience and a natural empathic ability. And when I read farther in the page on how they will teach you Shaktipat for $$$$$$ I became ill, and could feel those old dragon powers wanting to lash out. I have talked to CC Linda about the hands on of the tent revival ministers and have told her that it is a form of Shaktipat, where the precipitants receive the holly ghost. It is nothing more than kundabuffer where they are creating their own minion. Osiris I like how you discovered the musical side of the chakras, did you always know this or did it just come to you. Seven chakras seven notes to a chord and we are all reaching for a higher octave. You might say we are all “In Search of the Lost Chord.” In life if we learn to F A C E the music we learn that “Every Good Boy Deserves Favor.”
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Post by michael on Jul 2, 2006 1:26:10 GMT -5
Ben it's good to see ya on this forum
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Post by BenHangen on Jul 2, 2006 18:49:35 GMT -5
Thanx Michel, I do vibrate between a few forums and just havent posted that much on any of them as you can see been here a year and a half and only 26 posts. Good to hear from you again.
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Post by osiris on Jul 3, 2006 19:24:10 GMT -5
Hey ben i hope to see you around a bit more. We keep the seperate threads because you can work with just chakra. I and i think some of the others are true believers that Kundalini is not to be awoken by any force. But that it will awaken on its own time and when you are ready...I do however work with what i call the STREAM or the small amount of K energy supplied at all times up your spine. At first i thought the same "why have them seperate" but now i feel its good. Plus there are "two seperate" enrgies that can be worked with if you start at one place and move on later. At least if its not two seperate energies it is a bit more subtle and easier on you to look at it that way. The seven notes is something i picked up on while in meditation to a deepak chopra cd that goes through all seven chakra and a mantra with each. Seven chakra, seven key notes, seven deadly sins, and the seventh son who ascended. Lots of seven to go around.
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Post by crazycat on Jul 6, 2006 4:06:40 GMT -5
Kundabuffer: I had to look that up but I understand in what they are saying when using that term. And why is there a different thread for kundalini and chakra? One is the embodiment of the other. I have talked to CC Linda about the hands on of the tent revival ministers and have told her that it is a form of Shaktipat, where the precipitants receive the holly ghost. It is nothing more than kundabuffer where they are creating their own minion. Hey Ben, I use to think the Christian recieving of the Holy Ghost could be some thing similar to Kundalini, but have changed my belief on that. I believe tha shaktipat and the laying on of hands to recieve the Holy ghost, both are no more than a tranference of energy from one person to another. What you recieve from either would depend upon what your beliefs are. From what I have learned from some of the gnosis site is that this energy transference could possibly awaken the kundalini or more likely only activate the chakras. From what I have gathered from that Trufaxs site and gnosis that not all people possess an astral body. The astral body is created by the activating of the chakras in this life time or in some prior one. The astral body has to be created before one can activate or awaken the kundalini. The way I understand it from the gnosis teachers is that kundalini cannot be raised by energy transference or laying on of hands. The gnosis teach it is done through an alchemy prosesss through the use of tantra sex. How true that is I do not know. I did have a book years ago which had about five or six exercises that one could do that would prolong one's life. Huna exercises, I think they were. The last one had to be done a certain way or it would cause the kundalini to awaken and rise. So maybe there is more than one way. I did not do the exercise to try to raise the kundalini. So I do not know if it would have worked or not. I have seen those exercises on some kundalini site, but do not remember which one. I have not read about or know anything about tantra sex either so I do not know what all that entails for I have not got that far into the study. Anyways, from what I learned from a gnosis lecture, when the kundalini rises it can create a angelic being if it is done properly. If not, it can create a tail on the astral body and a demon being is created instead. The tail created on the astral body is called a kundabuffer. LOL! I have recieved the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands and I can assure you it did not turn me into a demon with a kundabuffer/tail. It had nothing what so ever to do with the kundalini. I would say it more like activated my chakras, especially the heart chakra.
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Post by osiris on Jul 11, 2006 16:04:14 GMT -5
I thought recieving the holy ghost was a way of excepting spirit? Or a way to accept that there is a gaurdian? Ive heard that baptism is a ritual awakening as well but have not studied it enough. There are many ways to actually awaken kundalini. Most are already practiced in meditation though and really not even thought of as that. Tantra has been said to be the fastest way. But to do it properly takes a near saint literally. You have to have no impure thoughts, and if you cannot control your sexual activity 100 percent than be prepared for the worst. The path of least resistance is what is used and that is the path most open in yourself if thats not a good path than the awakening will not be either.
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Post by crazycat on Jul 11, 2006 18:07:58 GMT -5
In christianity there is two baptisms, water and fire. The water baptism ritual is done to declare to the world that you believe Jesus Christ is a part of the triune Godhead. Jesus said he would not always be with us in the physical and that when he went away he would send the gift of the Holy Spirit to all who ask to dwell in them and impower one to live the christian life. When one ask to recieve the Holy ghost the religious leader lays on hands and tranfer this energy/fire to them. It is not neccessary to have someone else to do this, for you can also asked and receives it directly without the laying on of hands the same as one can ask to recieve Jesus as their saviour with out being in some church setting and going down and have some preacher pray for you. A person is born with the father Godhead portion. When a person come to the realization that they are not complete, but have flaws, miss the mark, however you want to put it and are in need of a savior and ask/prays for the second portion of the Godhead which is Jesus Christ and goes from being flawed to being symbolic covered in the blood of the Lamb and recieves the salvation they seek. At that point one is considered a babe in Christ and are on the path to grow in knowledge of being a child in christ. At some point one will realize that even though they are seen by God the Father as perfect, their actions to do not always line up with that fact. Even though they will to do God's will and not their one, they find that they are weak and without power to do so. That is were the Holy Spirit come in who is the third part of the Godhead. When one is ready to more fully live the christian life they can ask and recieve the babtism of the Holy Ghost which will impower them to live more fully God's will for them. This gift of the Holy Spirit lead and guides and teaches one on a daily basis and is with them always night and day to do what is God will for them to accomplish whether it is to heal a sick one, feed the hungry, love all unconditionly, etc, etc , etc. Even when a person is filled with the Holy Spirit it does not mean that they will alway do God's will and not fall into committing some sin/wrong thing. As long as one is in the physical they are going to be tempted and give in to that temptation from time to time. That is where their faith in the finish work of Christ sees them through. That does not mean that, that gives one a licene to sin all they want on a daily basis and have all the past, present, and future sins forgiven as some has a tendency to believe. Faith without actions/deeds is dead. Ouote Osiris: There are many ways to actually awaken kundalini. Most are already practiced in meditation though and really not even thought of as that. Tantra has been said to be the fastest way. But to do it properly takes a near saint literally. You have to have no impure thoughts, and if you cannot control your sexual activity 100 percent than be prepared for the worst. The path of least resistance is what is used and that is the path most open in yourself if thats not a good path than the awakening will not be either. I have been wondering about that. On the last Gnoticweb course which I started yesterday they teach that the true kundalini can only happen through Tantra. How true that is is what I'm wanting to find out. I would think there are more than one way because of the Huna's I memtioned in that last post, but that last exercise I said something about just may be some Tantra exercise. I have not read anything about Tantra so I don't know. If one is sexually active with a mate and the mate did not go along with what you were wanting, you would not be able to do that last exercise of the Hunas, either.
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Post by michael on Jul 18, 2006 2:46:55 GMT -5
Has anybody else here activated their kundalini besides Blake? Does anybody like this website? www.kundaliniyoga.org/It's a free online kundalini yoga activation website
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Post by crazycat on Jul 18, 2006 15:09:38 GMT -5
I thought Blake said he just did energy rising exercises, but that his trainer said that it wasn't Kundalini.
The only other person I know of for sure is Ben.
I did start doing those exercises on that course and I was also using a tape on rising the kundalini by Kelly Howel. Hehe! When it started happening it scared me too much. The tape exercise was what I was using when it started happening. I decided I better find out more about it first. ;D Now that I have found out more about it and that if you do it wrong you could create a kundabuffer, I'm even more chicken, but I haven't given up completely. I just may tackle that again, maybe.
What I have read is that it is better to have a knowledge of yoga, for the yoga exercises helps you to stay more in control when it is rising.
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Post by crazycat on Jul 19, 2006 17:13:40 GMT -5
Thanks Michael, for posting about the Kundalini course website. I was reading on it last night and I feel I just may be ready to tackle learning yoga now. I'm going to wait until school starts and things are more back to normal before I start though. I want to give it a better try this time and I want to read more on that site first. I need to finish the course on Gnosticweb first too. Did you every take the Gnostic Wisdom course? If not you may want to consider it. It teaches a lot of mantras to develope your psychic powers and how to rise the kundalini as well. I'm finding it to be a lot more interesting than the first two. I did enjoy doing both of them even though I had a little trouble on the second one there for a while. I'm glad I stuck it out and went on to do the last one. A lot of the things taught on the Self Discovery and Gnostic Wisdom is found in the books of Samuel Aun Weor found on this page. Some of the mantras and what that are for is found in The Three Mountians. The material they used on the course goes into more detail, but you could improve your psychic powers just from much practice of the mantras found in this book. www.gnosticweb.com/index.php?PageID=112
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