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Post by blank on Aug 16, 2006 6:36:14 GMT -5
You know those movies that give the old heart stings a tug? you know the one's.. this will grab them and rip them out, the most powerful movie I have ever seen
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Post by blank on Aug 16, 2006 6:13:02 GMT -5
Dancing Bear they war between those two is really messed up but it would almost be a new thread, if you look at the map www.infoplease.com/atlas/middleeast.html you'll see that afganistan is on the far right iraq is mid-left and iran is smack in the middle isreal is not part of the iran fan club and strangly back in the initial invasion of iraq, iran war labeled as an "axis of evil" to be honest I think it's a matter of greed mixed with the right power. With the allegations that have emerged recently there is little doubt that oil will never come down and a lot more people are gonna die in order to line the rich peoples pockets. But enough I am not too keen to take this thread off topic it's a rather interesting read. So If you havn't been part of organised religion for some time Crazy Cat, how would you describe yourself spritually/religiously speaking? Elvenlady I think thats it's humman nature to divide to make one's self superior to another which is where organised religion profits the most really, while "underground" places such as here allow for freedom of expression, there is no-one here collecting tithings dispite this site is run at lilacs expense (as far as I know) How do we divide spirituallity and religion, we can't without sinking to the level of thinking we are better then them. While the core is the same it's the manmade ideals and structure that make up the church, It's always been a puzzle to me as to why people build these elaborate churches while jesus never build a single one. Is it a need for order and structure or another method for showing off? church meetings should be held out doors in the creation of god not confiened to the building of man.
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Post by blank on Aug 14, 2006 7:00:54 GMT -5
it's not paranoia if their really after you.....
But seriously folks, if you are never unsettled you are never uncomfortable, if your never uncomfortable then there is never any need to change.
Fully understand what you mean by the media even in a country where our media is rather liberal you still must question that which you are told, life is rarely as it seems.
As for the gift (copout) of salvation... If there is a karmic debt on my ass then so be it I will pay my dues and live my life as best I can.
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Post by blank on Aug 13, 2006 7:43:11 GMT -5
Oh the muslim statment was a general thing for people who read this thread, not trying to incinuate that you don't like them sorry about the misunderstanding.
Yes I think I get what you mean and might I comment that your experience of christinaty has been far different to mine, which I guess make you the lucky one. Had I ever been in a church like that without the blatent hyprocisy I might still be a christian... na no way. I also think that anyone who participate's in this forum is here for the purpose of furthering their sprituality. I reconganise the spiritual aspect to organised religion I find the dogma too restricting in the search for self, which I think is why I have divided spirituality and religion. Your experience of the church has been one of constructivness while mine has been destruction.
You have also unsettled me a little and now I must alter my thought patterns.....
Thankyou
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Post by blank on Aug 12, 2006 21:52:25 GMT -5
Well you get bonus points for the rant being so long However I tend to disagree although it could be considered moot if you think about it in the right way, I think there are thing like clubs, they do not really count themselves as religios/spritual groups as they are more of a service to the community things like boy/girl scouts then are not self serving but help the children who attend grow into healthy humman beings, these groups are for the well being of mankind and are not exclusive by nature or design. Yes all religions are man made but then I wouldn't count zen as a religion, it's more classed as spirituality as it promotes oneness and harmony with the outside and internal world. This forum is open invite, and while I do not follow the wiccan section it's somthing I can happily accecpt it as what some people are into so maybe my definition of spirituality and religion differs slightly from the dicanory, in my humble opinion spirituality is the acceptance of the beliefs of others, while religion by design is to persicute those who do not accept it and be nice as pie to those who do. To use this board again as an example the people who frequent here are of a range of different beliefs, yet there is no arguing and bickering, as those who are here are interested in the spiritual aspect and/or definatly more open minded to others ideals and beliefs Although Crazy I strongly agree with your ideas that some of these groups where made with good intentions but (usually greed) somthing coruupted them, others where formed out of the need or want of power and control. But most of all "Be careful what you allow the media (the powers and principalities) to program into you minds." I find it strange that a source of entertainment can be used for such puropses. don't hate muslims I live with 2 and they are cool people.
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Post by blank on Aug 10, 2006 1:32:05 GMT -5
aye well this forum is fulla anomilies like wise women for instance... na joking
Well I can see your point but aren't the people praticing the religion the ones who create it and make it real? maybe pimping girls and selling drugs just isn't their style, I feel that the statement about sprituality would be the most profound. If those who pratisced religion (and I know there are those who do this) did it for the puropse of spritualility then religion wouldn't divide. Now maybe I have been really unlucky in the many churches that I have been in but I see the basic breakdown of: People who are the zealous one intent on destroying those who oppose them People who are well off and really don't care about anyone else
so maybe I am a bit bitter about religion; I can understand how satanism got started, before the blood drinking and murder it was essientially a religion based on honesty... well Crazy plz get back on your soap box it's is very stimulating to read your responses
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Post by blank on Aug 6, 2006 18:53:15 GMT -5
Oh I like that and agree whole heartly, thats one thing that I've never understood about churches. If they are all worshipping the same god, use the same bible then why do they divide themselves into sects
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Post by blank on Aug 25, 2005 6:34:58 GMT -5
Hey I was looking about on the web when I ran across this guy you can download his music off his website makes for good meditation www.erikstitt.com
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Post by blank on Aug 24, 2005 5:21:00 GMT -5
Eh you dont know system of a down?
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Post by blank on Aug 23, 2005 7:33:44 GMT -5
Damn I got this ablum a couple of days ago i swear their stuff just keeps getting better and better, cant wait for hypnotize
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Post by blank on Aug 22, 2005 0:02:23 GMT -5
Prince of Persia 2 Warrior Within, that games the bomb if you love platformers and some well done voilence. GTA:SA as well although that getting old now
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Post by blank on Aug 28, 2005 7:53:11 GMT -5
hey incubus if thats your style you'll prolly like the atmosphere listening to lou reed - perfect day
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Post by blank on Aug 21, 2005 23:59:56 GMT -5
All time favourite good lord your not making this easy are ya, system of a down is my current all time favourite. Bands of note; Rhombus, salmonella dub, blindspott, Bic Runga, Atmosphere, Ben harper, cake well I CBF naming more
bands I hate well Travis, that guy is a whinging mother fu**er but then there is also shina twian and 80% of mainstream pop
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Post by blank on Aug 11, 2005 6:19:23 GMT -5
ah the final fantasy movie.. although it might have had more to do the green tobbacco I had before hand and all the pretty lights
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Post by blank on Aug 11, 2005 6:16:48 GMT -5
Samual L Jackson and John Travolta in Pulp fiction Jason Statham from lockstock and Sean Connerey ah hes just gifted
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Post by blank on Sept 17, 2006 17:27:11 GMT -5
Had a friend of mine who was an alien on previous life he said the ship was powered by 3 of them 2 people had to be meditating at any time for it to work and he was the lacky who was responsable for feeding them etc, anyway he said they would look for the energy from planets and the inhabitants.. essentially metaphysical space travel
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Post by blank on Jul 4, 2006 1:47:43 GMT -5
ooh fun, two things really imho 1 are ya getting enough sleep lack of sleep causes hallucinations 2 correct me if i'm wrong but you see auras with the outer part's of your eye, which would lead me to believe that it's an entity of some sorts. Kinda like the ghost at work only really see her out of the corner of my eye but she harmless
so do you see it in set locations or anywhere in general, cos if you see it about alot it's prolly a guide of sorts.
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Post by blank on Dec 28, 2005 19:12:14 GMT -5
Well quick update is that I moved in with my g/f and dont have the internet anymore so I must get out to the net cafes more, havn't really made too much progress with my pratice mostly cos of work and stuff been working alot and been short of sleep so dont tend to have many dreams/obe's Ill post more when I get another chance
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Post by blank on Sept 4, 2005 8:35:59 GMT -5
Thanks Nani, Been a little busy as of late with everything I am trying to learn so heres a dream from a couple of nights ago 2nd Sept. I was inside a wooden batch reading the newspaper article about opera (the talkshow lady) when my brother came in and asked me about a different article on the page, from memory it was about a bombing or plane crash maybe either way there was lotsa distruction. After that I left the batch and was running through a beech forest I came outta the forset and was show my brother (Jonno) a map of where i'd just been, we where sitting of a rocky outcrop next to the water. I looked down at the water and saw red seaweed floating about in it, I told my brother how much I hate seaweed, in response he picked some outta the water and threw it at me. So we jumped into the water my other brother (chris) was there as well, there was big pillers of stone that came up to just below the waters surface, jonno was standing one as I swam past, them he joined us we swam around the beach to kaiteriteri beach. once we arrived i saw a ladder and grabbed it. As we walked up the beach there was another batch standing infront of it I saw my cusion she made a comment about typical me and I just smiled and made a remark back as we approched she turned into my auntie (her mother) I walked up and my other cusion stuck her head out the door, then I woke up. thoughts, well alot of this dream is composed of people and places I spent alot of time in/with last time I got someone confused in a dream it was my would have been stepfather, my cusion whom I saw is getting married at the end of this year so hopefully this means that she will have long and stable marrige, heres hoping she pops out a few less kids, and here is a pic of kaiteriteri beach www.nogalis.com/~rgladstone/NewZealand/photos/photo_11.html(i didnt take it I just looked on the net)
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Post by blank on Aug 31, 2005 20:23:42 GMT -5
Thursday 1st Sept
There was a group of about 5 of us including a friend H all walking about on a large steel platform of sorts when a kinda ghosty darth vader came flying along comming out of the ground. we split up and each of us fought a darth vader each cos there was also 5 of them, the one I chased was circling around this core/reactor of sorts he was halfway through powering it up or somthing when I got to him. He pulled out a lightsaber (red) I knew i'd be chopped up if i tried to take him head to head. So I ran up the wall and did a backflip off, the I either blew a white mist out my mouth or froze him with an ice blast from my hands, I cant really remember but the dream ended there.
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