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Post by crazycat on Sept 27, 2006 14:58:26 GMT -5
Well I'm seen some really bad movies, but they were too bad to even remember the names. ;D
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Post by crazycat on Aug 23, 2006 2:03:30 GMT -5
Everynight when we sleep and fall into a dream scene, we are in the astral realm. When we become conscious that we are in a dream scene, this is lucid dreaming. When we find ourselves conscious in the dream scene, at that point we can take control and leave the dream scene itself and experience the actual astral realm. You can also have an Inner-body-experience where one goes within an experience their own past lives. I have not had a personal experience of this, but have read about other peoples experiences. One experience I had may have been one, but I'm not real sure. Going by Monroe and others, some souls, when they pass over do not realize they are dead and become stuck so to speak and not move on. When you are conscious in the astral and come in contact with these souls, you can help them to realize that their physical body has died and by doing so help them to move on. I do not know for myself how true this is either for I have not experience this either. LOL! Just going by what I have read again. Maybe some day I can have an experience of this and find out for myself. Also, these same peoples say you can tell the difference in those who have no physical body and those who are walking around in the astral in an unconscious state of mind. This is called the Real-Time-Zone (RTZ) I think. Some times I think maybe I have not experienced astral projection because I have not experienced any of that. My experiences seem to be more like I am in some parallel dimension where things are similar to this dimemsion, but things are twisted around with differences but not that different than this physical dimension. It seems like I am experiencing for a time some other parallel self of myself, if that make any sense. A lot of it is still very confusing to me. Several of mine have been involved with a lady I call my rose lady. I have experienced being in her body and another time found my self in her home thinking it was my home. What is really strange about this is I have seen this lady at a store here where I live in the real, in this physical dimension. I freaked out. If I had it to do over again I would try to get to know her. At times I think maybe it wasn't real, that maybe I had somehow slipped into her dimension for a moment that day. I forgot to mention, but this lady is handicapped, in a wheel chair, most of the times I've seen her, even that day in this dimension's scene.
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Post by crazycat on Aug 22, 2006 0:49:13 GMT -5
Quote Dancing Bear: But this is the main reason i like to help with past lives because it helps tap into these residual karmic lessons left from past lives and present.. It allows them to open and to be worked with and then left open. So Soul and Spirit mould better and become one for an experience of a lifetime.. I believe that astral projection can be used as a tool for this same thing. One can go within and heal and set their own soul selves free from the karmic residual. It is a great thing Dancing Bear that you have such a gift to help others in that way. www.afterlife-knowledge.com/faq.htmlBruce A. Moen You may be interested in this guys website and his teachings. He teaches soul retrival. You may find some helpful wisdom there to help you in what you are doing.
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Post by crazycat on Aug 21, 2006 17:02:31 GMT -5
I agree with you here pretty much Dancing Bear. We have are all three parts. I have a couple of books by Peter Novak which really explains this in depth. What he expands on goes along with what the gnosis people teach as well. Hehe! also the bible too, the way I understand the bible, anyways.
From Peter Novak's book: "The Division of Consciousness: The Secret Afterlife of The Human Phyche"
The Original Unity: When we first first began on the wheel of life the spirit and the soul are so intertwined it is not possible to tell where one ended and the other began; neither was any more conscious or unconscious than the other.
The Fall: Creation of the uncoscious: Then the Spirit asserted dominance, becoming more fully Conscious, and separating from and subjugating the Soul into unconsciousness.
Creation and Dynamics of the Wall/veil: The Spirit's efforts to push down the Soul and reject input created a wall-like barrier between them, completely preventing Soul input from reaching the Spirit. The more the Conscious Spirit rejected the Unconscious Soul, the heavier and thicker the wall became.
Movement Through the Wall: The wall was like a one way door--data flowed freely from Spirit to Soul, but encountered severe resistance going from Soul to Spirit.
Formation of the Subconscious: When the Soul recieved data from Spirit, it automatically reponds by generating data to be released back to spirit. Finding itself unable to pass through the wall, however, this material became stuck in the middle. It formed a pocket of soul-material in the center of the wall which was not as conscious at the Conscious Spirit, but also not as unconscious as the the Unconscious Soul. this was recognized in the 20th century, and labeled the personal Subsonscious.
Personal Memory: Data from Spirit to Soul also became trapped in these pockets to store memory records. Hmmmm??? could this be the askaskic records/Hall of Records/book of Life.
The System Partially Self-Corrects: As the wall was stretched thinner around these pockets, some free movement of data could again flow from them into the Conscious Spirirt, allowing the Spirit access to it's memories stored in the Soul-pocket. Since these pockets were formed of Soul-material, in this way a limited degree of input from the Primordial Soul to the Conscious Spirit was restored.
Death: At physical death, the wall suffers convulsive spasms, squeezing out the pocket of Soul-material.
The Soul-Pockets Fall into the Pit: Separating from the wall, but still encased in a small coating of the wall material, the pocket of Soul-material finds itself surrounded by the Primendial Soul, having lost all contact with the Spiritl Cut off from the energizing input of the spirit, these Soul-Pockets dry up, Shriveling and shrinking into themselves, and fall to the bottom of the Unconsconscious Primordial Soul.
A new life (reborn physically) starts the process all over again.
Formation of the Collective Unconscious: Over many lifetimes, (Gnosis sites teach we have 108 of them) Many discarded Soul-pockets accumulate on the murky bottom of the Primordail Soul, congealing into a partially unified mass. I think this may be considered our "beast" within...hehe!
Gradual Distortion of the Soul-Spirit Balance: Since these Soul-pockets were formed out of soul-material which had been meant to be released into the Conscious Spirit but which the Spirit did not recieve, the Conscious Spirit shrinks a little with the formation of each new Soul-pocket, while the Unconscious Primordial Soul grows.
Judgement Day: When the Spirit's artifically-created wall finally breaks down, some of the discarded Soul-pockets will rise up immediately into the Conscious Spirit, playing havoc with the Spirit's sense of identity. Other Soul Pockets will remain below until finally exciting in a burst of light and power. (Going by Revelations the beast is released from the pit first and is dwelt with)
The pink is my personally added comments.
The illustations leave off there, but the next chapter is about how the man Jesus successed in making the two one, thus forming a new type of ascended being.
So, what is heaven and hell, is both located within a person.
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Post by crazycat on Aug 16, 2006 13:23:29 GMT -5
So If you havn't been part of organised religion for some time Crazy Cat, how would you describe yourself spritually/religiously speaking?Well for the past 16 or so years I have not join myself to any religious group. The church I belong to last, spilt and as far as I was concerned died for neither of the splits were desirable to me. I had belonged to two other church organization before that. All three of these I was led by spirit there to serve as a teacher of the children. After the split, I was not led to join another church, so have been of no religion since. Actually, when I was going to these church I did not feel a member of the organization so to speak, but have always considered myself a member of the living church of Jesus Christ that is not make of stone but our body itself is the temple. Well not always, just since 1978 when spirit begin a work in me big time. As far any oraganizsation, I would have to classify myself as a Preterist. I did not know my beliefs line up with this organization until just a couple of years ago. Hehe! I did not know they existed, until then. Then but back in the 80's I had read a book by David Chilton and what he wrote in his book lined up with what spirit had revealed to me. I was estatic to find someone who believe the same as me. ;D Well I just got another big surprise just now. I was looking up a website on Preterist to post in case you wanted to check out more of how I believe and guess what I found out? David Chilton is a Preterist. I did not know that. His book Paradise Lost is free to read on the net. Man, I paid $50 for that book, back there in the 80's. It has been one of my most treasured books. www.freebooks.com/docs/21de_47e.htmI feel I am still being lead by spirit and am where I am suppose to be. I have been led this year to study gnostism and am finding it very interesting. I don't know yet how gnostism will line up with Preterism, but I will find out. Oh! one other thing I want to mention. When Ronni first started this forum she posted a religious test to see what religious organization your beliefs would be the closest to and mine matched up to the Bahá'í Faith. Hehehehehahahaha! ;D I don't think Preterist was listed.
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Post by crazycat on Aug 15, 2006 13:32:46 GMT -5
I see the good and the bad side of organized religion. I feel there is a need for it our society. Someone once said, "churches/religion is a spiritual hospital for the sick in spirit and there are alot of sick in spirit out there." If one is no longer sick nor feel a responsiblity to serve in one of those spirirtual hospital then there is no need for that person to attend. We all have our place and responsibilities. I'm not saying that all people who attend the religious organization are sick in spirit, for some or very healthy spiritually and are the ones tending the sick (spirual nurses and doctors so to speak). I would say a big percent are there because they are in trouble and in need of spiritual guidance and help or it may be that they are just spiritual babes. That is probably why one can see many fault and problems in such people. Each of us are on different levels on our journey. Hehe! I guess I could say I am of "no religion" for I have not belong to any religious group now for about 16 or so years. Dancing Bear, I feel I need to explain more about the fact that we are reflections of one another. It does not mean one has to have that trait in ourself in this lifetime, but was experienced in some other lifetime. From what I have read about reincarnation most of humanity has had many, many lifetimes and we have most likely worn the other guys moccasins at some time or another in one of those lives. You guys are the greatest. I would say that most of us here on this forum have set aside the childish things (spiritually speaking) and are no longer one of the spiritual babes in this world. Not saying that in any bragging sense, but for the fact that we were able to have such a discussion such as this one.
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Post by crazycat on Aug 15, 2006 1:44:03 GMT -5
Thanks, Dancing Bear! I was hoping you would reply and give your point of view on this. And I am sorry that you had to tolerate such insults from a christian community. It is kind of ironic actually that christian's have such intolerance for people who practice Tarot for Tarot is the same as Kabbalah which was practice by the Judiah religion from the time of Adam and up and is still being practiced by the Jewish religion even today. The bible plainly states that Jesus did not come to do away with the law, but to fullfill it. The bible also teaches the difference in the use of the law for good and the use of it for selfish gain. To tell you the truth there is probably not too many christians who study the bible for themselves. Most are very ignorant of it and then you have the ones who derive meaning from it with there intellect only, rather than allowing spirit to help their understanding. There is a few verses that could indicate one should keep away form magicians, fortune tellers, and witches, and not have anything to do with them, but I see the interpretation of those verse as being taken out of context which changes their meaning big time. By the way, I did watch and enjoyed that movie. So what is your religion about? He replied I am NO religion. Religion divides people, I practice spirituality and Being Spiritual unites me with myself and Everyone else..To me that statement is an oxymoron. He is insinutes religion is bad because it divides people and then says spiriuality is good because it unites, which is a division in itself. He replied I am NO religion. I think I can safely say, that people who are lone rangers and do not associated themselves with any religious group believes religion to be only a bunch of rules/laws and have nothing to do with spirituality. I do not see that statement as saying he embraces them all, because of his next statement (Religion divides people). So to say he is No religion, he is saying he is above any rule or law that any one group of people has set up for themselves to live by. He is saying I am my own God with my own rules and I will not associate "join" myself with any group/religion that has set up a set of rules for the whole community to live by. So from that point of view he is the one that is causing division. Religions or any kind of group are set up to bring many people of one mind together and united them as one mind. It is only when one group has disrepect or something against another group that fighting and wars are fought. It is the problem that rose up between them that caused the division, not the group itself. It is a natural thing for groups that grow big, to end up with strife within because problems do rise up, usually by that long ranger who thinks his way of doing would be better. Thus a part breaks off and another group that teaches a different set of rules is set up. Of all the groups, the groups called "religion" are created by the spiritual leaders of a society and they are set up to teach spirituality to the masses in that society. If they teach something other than spirituality then they are no longer a religious group, but something else. Just because some group labels themselves as spiritual or religious doesn't make them so. I personally accept anyone regardless of religion, sexual preference etc.. Unless they are just downright horrible. and I do get annoyed when others think they are Mightier than though. and it is mainly the Christian or catholic that do the shunning.. ( I am not saying all , just the majority i have encountered) Sorry Dancing Bear, but I would have to go back to fact that you cannot see a trait in another unless that same trait is somewhere within oneselves. Granted it may be very deep down and hidden even from your own conscious self. You know the saying, "It takes one to know one". Not one of us escapes from that spiritual law. Hehe! That Creator God must have a really big sense of humor making us reflections of one another. ;D Next time one of those uppity christians ups their nose at you do something sneaky like stick some toliet paper to their back ends. Of course do it without them knowing. Hehe! I can just see a bunch of uppity christian out there tomorrow running around with toliet paper stuck to their butts.
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Post by crazycat on Aug 14, 2006 4:25:48 GMT -5
which I think is why I have divided spirituality and religion. Your experience of the church has been one of constructivness while mine has been destruction. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with the christian religion. Hmmmm.... was it caused from the religion itself or from the people you were involved with that were practicing that religion? Who amongst us has not been a hypocrite at some point or another? Who amongst us have not made any mistakes what-so-ever? The only way one can recognize hypocrisy, pride, hate, lust... or even love, kindness, gentleness, self-control in another, is if you have experience that within yourself as well. As far as dogma is concerned, as long as a person is being led by the spirit within, one does not have to concern themselves with the law. Spirit is law. As long as you are yeilding to spirit in all your actions, you will experience love, joy, and peace, health....if your actions do not line up, you will experience fear, depression, sickness, shame, unrest.. It's really very simple. But of course you may still have some passed life karma to pay with sickness or pain or what ever..... that's where the gift of salvation comes in. Somehow I like that ideal..having one's slate wiped clean to begain anew without anything against... having that heavy load lifted gives a person new strength and hope. I didn't mean to unsettled you. I just have an agenda against the media using a means of intertainment in a corrupt way as sneaking their propaganda in to use mind control to control the masses. Makes one wonder just who is it and why they want the masses to believe there is a difference in religion and spirituallity. Whoever or whatever must be wanting us to stay divided and waring amongst each other. Why is what I would like to know. I think it just might be those damn inorganics that invade our dreams and OBEs. Nothing but mind parasites living off our emotional energy. ;D Getting myself paranoid now!
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Post by crazycat on Aug 13, 2006 5:41:55 GMT -5
Hey Blank, I wasn't downing spirituality. I'm big time into it. LOL! When I was thinking clubs..hehe.. I was not thinking about those little kiddy ones either ..no way. I think they are great. I had more in mind, clubs like the masons, skull & bones, and the many, many other of such as that out there. I have nothing against them personally. I've even belonged to one of those types for several years. It was called the Mayans and was similar to what the the Masons teach. My grandfather was a 33 degree Mason, as well. I have nothing against those eitherand not just because my grandfather was one. LOL! As far as spirituality promoting oneness and harmony, the christian religion I belong to for 15 years taught the same thing and did much good in the community. I have nothing what-so-ever against Muslims, Jew, Jehovah Winess, Catholic, Zen, Buddha, Hindu or any other. I am from a family that is a great mixture of many of those mentioned. We came very close to having a muslims added recently. Hehe!.... not only a mixture of belief systems but a mixture of the races, as well. I guess you could say, I from a family of mutes. The only thing I have against, is how the media has shown religion, especially the christian religion as someting foolish, stupid, and evil and the way it insinuates that it is the cause of all the world's problems. All I'm saying is that there is just as many spiritual people in these religious groups as there is in any other, whatever it is called. Quote: in my humble opinion spirituality is the acceptance of the beliefs of others, while religion by design is to persicute those who do not accept it and be nice as pie to those who do.In all those years that I was very involved in that christian religion, I never knew not one christain person who persecuted someone belonging to a different religions or group unless you call sharing their beliefs with another as persecuting. The ones I belong to had very caring, loving people, but of course I did not belong to all of them and there are hundreds of denomination out there and even within the same denomination there can be some bickering, but from what I've read on the net, there is bickering amongst some of those spiritual groups as well. What I tried to get across in that first post is that I don't see any difference in religious people and spiritual people esp. since religion itself is about spiriuality. The Christian religion isn't just about do's and don't (dogma) even thought there is some of that too. The christian religion I belong to was about being led & filled by the spirit/the Holy Spirit and living ones life in service to others. Loving your neighbor as your self. Your neighbor means all people, at least that is what I was taught. Hehe! If you have not seen how the media has not poked fun at the and put down the christian religion or christian people, you sure have not been watching the same shows and TV that I have. You talk about hating.... the way I see it, it is the other way around. There is much hating of the christian people and blaming them for what is wrong with the world. Isn't that why the people over in the middle east hate us so much, because they see us as a christian nation? From what I understand they don't see us as mixture of all religions and spiriual people that we are. They hate us because we care for the Jewish people the same as all the others. They even lump Jew and Christian as one and the same, which isn't so at all. I just really don't see where you could have confused me with hating some one, from what I posted. don't hate muslims I live with 2 and they are cool people. That statement makes absolutely no sense to me, unless just because I'm mostly christian it automaticly makes me someone who hates others in you eyes. Which is a very wrong absumption on your part. Actually, it makes me think that you didn't really read my long post, at least not very well for you missed my point by a mile or two . ;D Are you going to really read this one? Really hear what I am saying?
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Post by crazycat on Aug 10, 2006 17:41:13 GMT -5
;D I guess I will get back on the old soap box for a spell. hehe......since you asked for it. First off, all religions are man made and are formed to promote some group of people's ideals. None of them are God made. Some are formed to promote spirituality and service to their community and then there are others formed to to serve and promote some power hunger person or group of people's cause. It boils down to the wheat and the tares being allowed to grow up along side each other until the time of the harvest/ascension. All groups rather they are a religious group, political group, social club, gang, country, government, etc., all create division. That is what all groups do: cut and divide. It is not a charactistic of religious groups only. That has been mankinds nature form the time Adam became unsatisfied with what God provided and became power hungry for more. From that time we have been living in a world or duality. The word duality means division. Yes, Dancing Bear, the bible does have a lot of volience and horror written within it's pages for it is the history of mankind, but it is also the story about the great love of our Creator God who loved us unconditionally and interviened in our self destructive ways and provide a means of saving us from our own self destruction. It is very sad that you laid your bible aside before you realized that amongst all that volience and horror committed by mankind that it is in fact, the greatest love story ever told. Some groups that are formed are corrupt from the beginning, some become corrupt later, but then there are some groups that are formed to serve their commuinty and they continuing in their purpose rather it be a religion or what ever the group labels itself. Have you ever heard of a gang or social club that is formed soully for the purpose of performing some service to the whole community? I haven't. These types of groups are formed to serve themselves and their members only. Granted, not all religious groups are formed to be of service to others either. And I'm not saying that there are not some service to others types people involved with or belong to some of those service to self groups. I'm just saying that it is more likely for a religious group to be formed for the purpose of service to others over say a gang, social club; such types as those. It just irks me that the powers that be are using the media to put down all religious groups as thought they are the soul cause of all the world's woes. The fact is, that there are many, many religious groups out there whose members go out and donate their time and goods to help feed the hungry, provide the homeless a place to sleep, visit the sick and those in prison to give them comfort. After Katrina happened there were more religious/church organizations and their people out there giving a helping hand and sure as hell did more for those people than the corrupt Red Cross and Fema did for them. For instants, the Goodwill organization stepped in and help themselves to goods donated for those people and sent it all over sea and made themselves a good profit from it all. Anyways, the way I see it there are many more spiritual people in a religious group than there are in some gang, social culb or political group. How many teenagers in gang related groups do you know who would give up a whole week of their time to go pack boxes of rice to send to the needy? There are many young people who do things such as that all the time in church/religious related groups. Also, just because a group labels themself as religious and God centered, does not mean they truly are. As for Blanks statement about why there are so many sects if they are studying the same bible and worshiping the same God. That is simple, because religions are created by man not God. Look at how many so called "spiritual" sects there are. Just because they use the word spiritual rather than religious does not make them any different except in their own eyes. They still have a set of ritual and rules they live by rather they belong to an organized group or not. There can be just as much corruption within a "spiritual group" as there are in any other. Have you ever looked up both definitions in the dictionery? Both words mean pretty much the same thing. They are both labels mankind has concocted to further divide. It's just that the word spiritual is an in word right now because the word religious has been given a bad rap through the media by the powers that be. Shit! Give it another 10 years or so and it will probably go a complete circle and the word spiritual will be looked as bad and the word religious will be the in thing. With that I will get off my soap box... with one last statment or two. Be careful what you allow the media (the powers and principalities) to program into you minds. Hehe... as David Icke has said, they produce the problems and then provide the solutions, all for the purpose of their own profit at the exspense of us pinions.
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Post by crazycat on Aug 7, 2006 14:08:01 GMT -5
The way I see it...it isn't the religions themselves that divides, it is the people that are practicing those religions. We always look for something outside ourselves to put the blame on. Religions groups are no different than clubs, gangs, etc. In fact, the people that are in clubs and gangs are more likely to put themselves above those who do not belong to their group than so religious group person. The way I see it, there is more likely to be more people practcing spirituality in some religious group than there would be in some social club or gang related group. Just my humbel opinion.
People from time one have divided themselves into this country or that country, this club or that club, this gang or that, this religin or that, etc. It is people themselves who do the dividing. Shall we have a "one world order" or kept our freedom to follow the path of our own chosing? By putting the blame on those religious groups aren't you putting yourselves above them as better than they? They are people too who are in the same boat, who are following their own beliefs/path. Who are we too said they are wrong and place all the world woes onto them?
The truth is we are all the same and think our way is the right way and when we think we are right and they are wrong that is what divides.
I'll get off my soap box now. LOL! ;D
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Post by crazycat on May 11, 2006 19:22:25 GMT -5
www.customflix.com/210325Have any of you here of this movie? I don't know if it's going to be in theaters or not. It looks like it might be interesting.
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Post by crazycat on May 10, 2006 3:03:21 GMT -5
Redfield said his movie is just getting started and is only on the west coast this week but said it should be in movie theaters in the rest of the US in the next few weeks.
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Post by crazycat on May 10, 2006 0:19:27 GMT -5
The Celestine Prophecy guy is the guest on Coast-to-Coast tonight if anyone is uo and interested. www.kogo.com/pages/streaming.html This is where you can go to listen.
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Post by crazycat on May 7, 2006 16:20:34 GMT -5
It looks like I am going to have to wait too.
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Post by crazycat on May 6, 2006 13:24:23 GMT -5
I didn't know either and I do want to see it too.
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Post by crazycat on Dec 31, 2005 22:52:20 GMT -5
Both HP and Chronicles of Narnia are great. Why much one have to beat out the other? There's plenty of interest for both.
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Post by crazycat on Dec 31, 2005 22:58:11 GMT -5
I have seen several ghost. I grew up in a house that had quite a few. Also, my sister either committed suicide or was murdered when she was 15. She stayed around for a long time and was seen by many people. She has visited me a few times, as well.
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Post by crazycat on Dec 31, 2005 22:49:07 GMT -5
Yeah they really needed to have a midway break. I had to miss a little after drinking on that coke. Hehe! I missed some of the nasty bug stuff.
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Post by crazycat on Dec 31, 2005 16:31:36 GMT -5
I love the movie. I did not even realize it was so long, until it was over and it was dark outside when I came out. LOL!
Great movie. Do see it on the big screen.
Ronni, I was sad for Kong, as well. Just plain heartbreaking what they they did to him.
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