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Post by avatar on Oct 1, 2007 13:11:22 GMT -5
i have heard once a definition of magick "magic is to create meaningful coincidences at will". While I do not believe in coincidence, I believe in the mood or feeling, or i guess rather the perception of coincidence, and I find that seeing creation of the moment as it is happening within to be perceived as the ultimate coincidence, or many many many of them unfolding continuosly. Though I see no coincidence and see intent it appears coincidental when we are aligned to the intent/will of the moment as it is unfolding, or becoming alligned to perception. I see reality as a relationship with raw will, that relationship, personal for everyone, I see as a synchronous relationship. Some believe that it is a symbiotic relationship. that we exist for intent/will, and intent/will for us. As if our awareness of it gives it life, creation(id say rather our awareness merely gives it/us form. as I see it pure intent/will is formless raw potential, and what we have done and seen from our lives experience is the result of our choices, thus the result of our present awareness, which many get stuck to. It is the sychronicity we have developed thus far. Different systems, or ideas, contain different forms or patterns of sychronicity, for instance the 'after-life', or what some call purgatory (a place where souls become pure before meeting with 'God', or the Creator, and the Creation). Some say that 'God' speaks to us everyday through everything around us, in a form of hidden synchronicity within the surroundings. I dunno really about all that, I know that reality is intended synchronous relationship, and one looks for sorrow, it is sorrow they will find, and if one looks for answers in a specific field than that is what they find. I am more for the dreamer and the dreamed in that we dream the dreamer and the dreamer dreams us. When one develops a sixth sence, within the moment around us, meaning t listen to the world closely and to watch as well, one begins to hear things before they happen, at first apppearing as if it is heard naturally before it is occured in perception but as the idea itself happens, it like hearing a thought and hearing or seeing then what you have heard. This appears naturally because our intent has often intitially been set-up to run automatically. meaning we allow our world to be created for us, and give oursleves little power over our world. what i mean is when one begins to not only hear the intent before it is manifest into perception, one can than move on to themselves, to hear what they want to hear, or see, before it is manifest, in the same way. it becomes not only prediction of the moment but it becomes creation, or, at the very least multi-dimensional travel, or what I have heard called simply 'looking-forward'. Again it appears to be an accepted way of travel using sychronicity. I could easily say that sychronicity is magic itself, we intend to do 'this' and then we see it happen. not such a coincidence when seen that way, problem often is people do not always see their intent, as it has been set-up for most to be automated. using synchronicity can find out anything one wants to learn of, in any world they wish to learn about. i use it to speak with beings all over the multi-verse, and beings (as far as I can tell) that have no present form in the 'physical' bubble. i have met beings that only speak the moment, or rather using the sychronicity of all that is around, to communicate to me, vise versa, and know we understand each other. messed up some places are, not 'messed up' but wow, i mean talk about alien communication.
as far as sorcery goes, personal history is most important to eradicate. most get held to their routines, their knowledge, awareness, and fail to go the extra mile, never realising their is much more out their, and the world is, as much as it is known or more, unknown. when one gives their world the value of unknown, then it is a playground for learning. other thing about personal history in a shared concentual dream/world is that our own habitual pattern of synchronicity, our expected behaviours, routines, habits, become other people's expected synchronicity. i feel personal history in someone when communicating, I feel exactly what they expect, sometimes demand, i can feel it in my eyes, and in my feelings, my idea, and to be free from it is the best. one of the ways to mix up your habitual synchronicity, is to simply place awareness on doing things different ways, and for no apparent reason at all, to be unexpected and not a robot. it goes as far as the edges or faces we look to see, and is exactly that, when we look to something do wee look for the good edge, the bad edge, the humour edge, the wise answer edge, do wee look to people as aware or unaware, smart or dumb. our world has been said to run off our personal power, and in a way our respect for it. if we expect our world to be dumb and boring, then we can only leran so much, and that is synchronicity. really in every moment, there is a pause, for what shamans have called controlled-folly, i see as time pauseing to show me different faces of the moment at hand. I can then see the different reactions my action will cause, the 'expected faces' whether happy sad shock, angry, humour, alll of them over-lapping each other, untill i grab a hold of one and follow. it is like the fork in the road, with all possible forks, or as many as i have my awarreness in at the moment. eaither way all those reactions are their, action reaction is a form of intended sychronicity itself. i could go on forever i better stop!!!!!!!!!
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Post by skyflower on Oct 2, 2007 16:14:46 GMT -5
II see it as road signs that you can't ingnore while you are on your jouneys in life. Yes!
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Post by avatar on Oct 4, 2007 15:06:48 GMT -5
Thank you Skyflower, I see it as everything we do, every action, every word spoken, is like a dance.
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Post by avatar on Oct 4, 2007 15:12:01 GMT -5
Warding, a magickal act of keeping certain things out of one's path, deals exclusively with synchronicity. Surely everything within infinity is out there, and we can meet in our path, however intended synchronicity deals also with keeping things out, things we know are not welcome in our path. I see it as the dreamer and the dreamed, so when I meet with my dreamer I 'rebuff' any wards I have created, and re-evaluate them as well.
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kellyboy
Seeker
How do you prove that you exist!? Maybe we dont exist....?
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Post by kellyboy on Oct 5, 2007 10:50:38 GMT -5
When I read this thread i cant help think of the DVD "The Secret", actually alot of things in relation to this site remind me of that DVD, im sure quite a few of u on here have watched it? Says same kinda thing in a different way (IMO), but from what I understand they say u also have to have that positive feeling with it, seems like when stupidasscomputers followed every sign habitually maybe some of them werent positive synchronicities?? Uve also got to think outside the box and look for synchronicities not in just numbers but other things ie: time. I beleive im living in a sync at the moment. For years i wanted to open up a business but was too scared for sum reason. Now all these things related to the biz i wanna open are syncing themselves to me, plus i was put on sick leave at work (so i can put time into the biz,IMO), thing is, i feel with alot of confidence in my heart it will be a successful business, but for some reason im still hesitant and my window of opportunity is closing fast =( Any1 got any thoughts on my craziness? I find that alot of things relate back to each other when it comes to Metaphysics. Any1 agree? I was born on 1-1-81 does that mean i was kinda born 'synchronised' with the universe? =P (I was also born with one of those veils if that synchronises anything else?) Also do u guys that follow syncricities notice that u over analize everything? (Im guessing it goes with the territory?) [EDIT]PS: Top thread!!!
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Post by avatar on Oct 9, 2007 13:54:26 GMT -5
hey Kellyboy, if i know stupidasscomputers, and i think I do, I would say he prolly just had a bad dream.
Analyzing, funny word! Really though.. the world is built and sustained by such descriptions, and observations. Better, I find, to make different inventories, and descriptions of the many alignments of reality. If you find one you don't like, laugh and build a new one to see!! Sharing is good too.
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Post by avatar on Oct 20, 2007 9:52:52 GMT -5
warding is what the world has done, when it taught us this dream. it taught us a ward, or rather called order. when one learns that the world has no order exept the bubble we ourselves make, then we make our own wards. then one cannot rely on the world taught to us, what goes up comes down, electricity runs computers and lights, the wind is this or that, one must only rely on their own will, that does everything, their own idea, and the world of man, the world that was taught to us, is no longer a buffer against the unknown. then the shields are down, and anything goes, order falls to chaos, so that new orders can be found, falalalala the worlds go round.
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Post by bloodmaple on Nov 9, 2007 17:14:54 GMT -5
We actually talked about these today in my psychology class. They were 'documented/discovered' by a swiss psychologist named Carl Jung, he worked under Freud. But I'm interested in them as well. Carl Jung called them "Meaningful Coincidences" and of course if you don't believe in coincidences then they can be pretty powerful.
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Post by petal on Mar 8, 2008 0:14:49 GMT -5
i find observing synchronicity is like traveling as conscious awareness. what we become aware of within our attention, now, manifests outside of us, forming into perception. in a way it could be described as a manifestation or integration of the light body, into the physical. merging as one.
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Post by BenHangen on Mar 9, 2008 15:20:15 GMT -5
Petal have you ever experienced the light body? Just a question as what you have said is an expression that I have been trying to convey myself. The transferring of everything of what people think as a mental domain and transferring it into the physical domain, more or less making it a manifestation of reality. i find observing synchronicity is like traveling as conscious awareness. what we become aware of within our attention, now, manifests outside of us, forming into perception. in a way it could be described as a manifestation or integration of the light body, into the physical. merging as one.
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Post by nani on Mar 9, 2008 18:05:58 GMT -5
very much agree to both of you petal and Ben, and anyways nice to see and readya again!
oh and i love to "detect" synchronicities hehe.. the thing but is that at times it still cn be confusing to recognize the right meaning of it, as a certain sync. also does mirror and exist on and different levels or layers at the same time, like anything else as well of course. So me myself i often first later can assign and understand certain sync in the right way.
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Post by petal on Mar 12, 2008 12:06:08 GMT -5
Yeah, a nice synchronicity! An unfolding of our attention, laid down before us, by our intent to allign. I see it - the light and physical bodies - as a ladder type system, or a train. whereas the messages are easiest to see, more direct, when looking directly. its all in what one looks for. there are a great many of powers, many connections to allign to when looking for messages. the allignment is solely for now, how you look toward reality is a progamming with, for the moment alligned into your attention. the moment is always within attention, one always knows. and what one knows is allways there to see. i oten to allign to an alien group entity, angelic, Death, different friends, or beings that are within select awareness' thta hover around those places, aware of the 'lines' in different directions that stem off of that awareness in new directions. i can allign to the mold of man, which can be seen as God, an all knowing awareness that knows everything, and gives free choice. this awareness hovers close to moments of self-judgment, forgiveness, heavenly awareness, and scouts of knowledge from, heaven, hell ,puragatories.., the beings around these places.. etc etc.
i find the answer as to what the message relates to, or where its from, can be instantaneous, or it can come later. which itself is from our allignment with intent, the momentary programming, that creates this occurance. which can become a habitual way. when intent is placed in attention, one sees their intent unfolding now. whereas there is also a way that enables a 'long range' intent unfolding, that takes our recent past history, and unfolds from this as well. so one can work with intent 'indirectly' or rather not so instant. however working directly with intent becomes habitual also. so habituated behaviours are something useful. its often useful to realise right now, that the past is nonexistent in this moment, and all that trully exists is what is within your attention, right now. that realisation creates a self created reality, outside everything, while one can rebuild from the bare underpinnings. also using a blueprint of known realities to work with. a balance i think, is nice to implement, which is a decision, of how to work with reality right now.
an awesome thing about the whole unfolding 'process', is to focus attention on the unfolding process. and keep going.. it all unfolds from creation!
the confusion can be resolved by either looking forward as time unfolds, or looking at time after it unfolds. which is attention directed 'within' then focused 'outwards', or watching reality and then searching inward. methods to enter in and out of someone elses dream.. both are perfect ways. runs into the decisions of.. control, and harmony, consentual realities.. allowance, denial. then we have morals, self created limitations built for a continuum of chains, now i sound morbid, damn. oh well! truth is its all now, and there is no sequential continuum of illusions, just a continuum of life.. that is boundless.
Ben, yes i have!! I have found also, in my choice to further explore reality, and the cracks between, that while living a life, on a percieved surface that uses verbal communication, or words, that the parralel dimentions, or alien worlds, become one world, by connecting them with the communications used on various planes. this way communication is learnt and used, understood, thru the various planes. whew!! what a job.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Mar 18, 2008 12:41:10 GMT -5
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Post by petal on Mar 19, 2008 11:08:51 GMT -5
thats awesome Lilacsky! I use synchronicity as an indication of the unfolding moment, and when directing my intent to see or acomplish something, i listen for the manifestion, or the blueprint unfolding. i have heard it as using awareness as an aspect of the environment.
time is an illusion! one thing i found extremely helpful in keeping in my attention, is that the emnations themselves, underneath or within manifested percetion, is unchanged and eternal.
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Post by daphne on Mar 21, 2008 2:05:03 GMT -5
thats one thing i found extremely helpful in keeping in my attention, is that the emnations themselves, underneath or within manifested percetion, is unchanged and eternal. thats interesting, thanks! sort of like a hologram?
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Post by petal on Mar 22, 2008 11:41:14 GMT -5
haha, yes indeed. i've been thinking a lot on the holographic world. seems at times i cant get the world out of my eyes(and its not even in my eyes!!), i mean its not 'out there', its in my field of vision, no distance or anything, rather strange. projected, yes. streching bending warping, really tho i think its only warping my mind!! nothing new really. tho i have been practicing lately on the identification of phantom projections and energy generating ones. but even the beings being alligned to are within my description, within my attention, before hand. and then the underlying emptyness hits me, an emptyness that is full. everything within nothing. what a world.. sometimes i let it pull me on a ride, sometimes i pull the ride to me intentionally. either way its madness! i have learnt to allow things to unfold, without knowing or expecting, just watching, like a silent fool. the two ways, one of expecting everything, and one of expecting nothing, are quite different. i think i enjoy more the volitional acts of journying, as opposed to the acts of just taking a ride and zooming off. but ya know, they are both rather interesting. to say the err.. least. sometimes the strange beings i allign to, the first words they say.. 'DO ME A FAVOUR AND DONT TALK'. ohhh my. when will i learn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by petal on Mar 24, 2008 12:53:49 GMT -5
thats beautiful ya know.
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Post by ~~section8... on Apr 11, 2010 22:06:13 GMT -5
What someone said about Carl Jung is absolutely correct when talking about synchronicities. He called them "meaningful coincidence." He even said that the probability that these events occur together by simple chance is extremely low. He even talked about one event in his book: "A young woman I was treating had, at a critical moment, a dream in which she was given a golden scarab. While she was telling me this dream, I sat with my back to the closed window. Suddenly I heard a noise behind me, like a gentle tapping. I turned round and saw a flying insect knocking against the window-pane from the outside. I opened the window and caught the creature in the air as it flew in. It was the nearest analogy to a golden scarab one finds in our latitudes, a scarabaeid beetle, the common rose-chafer (Cetonia aurata), which, contrary to its usual habits had evidently felt the urge to get into a dark room at this particular moment. I must admit that nothing like it ever happened to me before or since." It's a really interesting thing to think about.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Apr 12, 2010 7:22:01 GMT -5
cool! I try to link events in such ways in order to percieve the relativity of what is really going on behind the scenes, and Im always amazed how much I do end up putting/piecing together in order for them to create a outcome.
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Post by ~~section8... on Apr 12, 2010 17:49:04 GMT -5
So it helps you predict the future?
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