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Post by osiris on Sept 18, 2006 19:35:00 GMT -5
Ahh thank you. But i do have one question can we influence and manipulate astrally? When out of the boundries of time i suppose the speed really matters very little.
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Post by bezjak on Sept 19, 2006 10:50:34 GMT -5
There is a "price" when such is done, paid by both. This is why many avoid "contact".
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Post by BenHangen on Sept 25, 2006 1:02:15 GMT -5
What would that price paid by mankind be bezak? I know the price I paid but what price did the other being pay in our encounter? I’m not going to say that I have been abducted but there is no way in this hell you can ever convince me that I didn’t see a UFO and it’s inhabitance. Up way too close and too personal. If you want to ever be in the vibe state, just have a UFO fly 20 feet overhead in the daytime. Then if you want to know if you have any sanity left try to tell someone about it. These were not what you would call Grey’s or a similar type of race, more of a standard human type of physiology.
Just being a more advanced technological race doesn’t mean that they have to be peaceable to our way of life does it? Are you not being a little naive in assuming there way of life is even compatible to ours. There are stories of even a war with alien beings in the Indian epic where Vishnu created a weapon of such unimaginable destruction that there wasn’t much left to tell about after he used it to get rid of the evil ones.
In a strange way I can see the relationship of the movie “The Matrix” in what your saying about aliens. So bezjak these beings may very well be in an electro-magnetic state, but that’s like AI isn’t it. Maybe the being is really the ship and little beings are something like an encounter suit that would be the some thing as an automats battery. What would a being like that think of us, would they think like the Dalek’s in Dr Who, devoid of any emotion save hate; without pity, compassion or remorse. Or would they be like the machines in The Matrix that keep us around as batteries. All you have to do is cruse the net to see that we are all headed for cyber implantation, and is that going to be out great ascension? In a state like that it seems that it would be much easier to fold space as you wouldn’t have to worry about bodily damage.
There are many tales of highly evolved races that come back to this world of ours, a ledged of Atlantians, and the Arian race for a couple. Weather we are the Food of the God’s, a battery, or there is a prime directive of non interference I’m sure they will never tell us, we will have to find out for ourselves.
On the Coast to Coast if you use WinAmp use the search engine and they have some 6 stations running that program. Some are greatly delayed maybe like June of 2006 or something but you can still listen. The show I’m listening to now is from May of 1998, but it’s still relevant even today. LOL.
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Post by osiris on Sept 25, 2006 17:58:34 GMT -5
The price would be the ruin of us all, even if the "alien" race was peacful thats what. We cant even get along with other PEOPLE and religions in the world much less alien technology. Face it we are to pathetic to be able to deal with it. I know some would say i dont give us enough credit but the only things i have to judge off of is our history. And we cannot even move to a new country without killing everything in sight.
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Post by BenHangen on Sept 25, 2006 23:09:00 GMT -5
You do understand part of the problem then Osiris, the other part would be cultural shock. When this happened to me there was an internal explosion, I think it was the big bang my internal model of the universe going boom. Nothing made any sense anymore, and this was just seeing them up close. I was raised in an almost catholic training, not that I believed in all that was taught to me, but I had a real good understanding of why in the Christian sense.
In a religious manner if an alien ship landed and they came out to talk to mankind, what god would they tell of? Just the proven fact of they exist would mean the demise of all major religions because the bible didn’t say so and faith would be no longer. There would be chaos in the world, I am an intellectually independent person and at that time I thought I was pretty knowledgeable, but that really rocked my world. I don’t think most people in the world would handle it so well.
Another thing is that the government would have to admit to lying all these years and have been using alien based technology for a long time. How do you think that would set with the citizens of the US. Well they could blow that one off, as they already know the government lies.
You have hear of the dweller of the threshold, the epitome of all fears in OOBE, guess that experience was my bottom dweller and ever sense that experience everything else has been anticlimactic.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Sept 26, 2006 7:42:46 GMT -5
I thought we were talking about obe's and alien abduction lol...Just kidding guys:) interesting thread..I don't have much to add to it because Ive never experienced anything UFOish..lol
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Post by elvinlady on Sept 26, 2006 9:48:21 GMT -5
I have never had an experience like that so I can't comment on it but I am definitely interested in it.
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Post by BenHangen on Sept 26, 2006 20:17:32 GMT -5
Roni, you amaze me I always think of you as a spacey person. Not a space cadet either. What if I throw in an OOBE where I was no way in control? Like being wrapped in a rug to where you can’t move, you’ve heard of that where people are stuck half way and cant get completely out and are paralyzed. Ok I’m in a position that is like being wrapped in a rug rolling from one side of the bed to the other, by no force of my own, it was as if an invisible force was moving me.
I guess you have heard stories like that before, but here is the twist or so I think; it was my physical body that was rolling from side to side. Then instead of exiting my body I raised into the air and from the ceiling looking down there was no body down there to see. Then I began moving in the air about the room still wrapped in that magic carpet. The strangest part was taking off through the floors and winding up in space.
The reentry was just a strange in that I took a breath while in this other world and fell from this trip and right through the celling landing on the bed where I started but in a different position. I lay there still unable to move and waiting for my heart to beat. I noticed the time again and it was about 2 minutes later. I lay there beginning to feel the blood once again rush through my body; my heart was beginning to beat again. The pressure in my chest was gone and I could breathe.
During the whole episode I was as aware of my body as I am now and there was no transition in consciousness, in fact from the time it started till about 3 days later I didn’t sleep. Not in fear, just that jacked up. This was sometime after that UFO encounter, but I made me wonder if there might be a connection.
Was it what I call a physical OOBE or alien abduction?
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Sept 27, 2006 7:42:24 GMT -5
hmmm spacey eh..lol you know when I was in highschool I loved space music LOL! Im not kidding I used to lay in my bed and listen to it and look at my hippy stars on my ceiling, no I was not on drugs!HA but anyway, I always wanted to see or experience something differant as in UFO's or alien encounters even than.My sister used to tell me if there is a bright light at my window DONT GO OUTSIDE!LOL because I told here I thought aliens were god and I became obsessed with them for a bit at that time lol but I beleive anything is possible, and if I do not experience it first hand I find it hard to beleive in ya know, but I try to stay open minded to all possibilities. My thinking has changed though , I mean that Im starting to think that all things can be explained by science and I don't like that LOL because I used to think that not all things can be explained by man or measured even to define but at least I noticed my thinking patterns before they change completely lol Im just a person who needs fact I guess..ha but at least Im still mindful!
Sometimes we do not experience the change or shift in awareness , it just happens..god here I go!lol But seriously, haven't you had obe's where you didn't recognize the change in consciousness or awareness???
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Post by bezjak on Sept 28, 2006 10:13:27 GMT -5
I once stated that "...not believing in a being does not make it less real or influential.." do not forget that, in this universe (multiverse) ALL types of life are not only possible but plausible. Osiris is right to an extent there would be mass panic, and folks running to the gun shop, but any peaceful "advanced" race would first try to "normalize" the masses to the idea of the existence of aliens first before visiting outright. As far as "hostiles" well.......studies of anatomy, physiology, the interaction of certain chemicals, social behavior, microbiology, nanotechnology, food sources, and sleep patterns... would be done covertly until the hostiles were ready, and there in-lies our problem....how much good are guns when you have been outflanked before the fighting has begun? When every weakness the majority of the population has is being played to the heavens at light speed (radio-waves) or faster (dreams). I have toyed with the idea of electro-magnetic beings before also......in our "human" state that would not be a pleasant encounter hostile or not, just think of the energy needed to maintain such a being........even if they loved us I fear the honeymoon would be short lived.
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Post by crazycat on Sept 28, 2006 16:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by BenHangen on Sept 28, 2006 22:30:02 GMT -5
Sometimes we do not experience the change or shift in awareness , it just happens..god here I go!lol But seriously, haven't you had obe's where you didn't recognize the change in consciousness or awareness??? Sorry Roni meant to respond to this before and the answer is no. That is just me and it doesn’t apply to all. I really think this is attributed to a NDE at the age of 5. For reasons known I don’t obe that much within the last decade but that’s ok with me. The lucid dream are enough to keep me company but I am getting that urge to be out there again. The type of lucy’s I have are borderline AP’s and in a would that isn’t like the one we know of now. Oh here is the question back at you, “if you don’t notice a change in consciousness or awareness, how would you know you were out or if your not just in this world walking around?” Good point bezjak and I agree CC what the heck was that, couldn’t understand what they were saying on that clip.
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Post by crazycat on Sept 28, 2006 22:41:53 GMT -5
Sorry Ben, they must be having problems on their website today. I could not get them to work tonight either, but they worked just find last night. I couldn't get any of them to load tonight. ;D It looked like omeba looking things up there in the sky. It showed on one of them where there were hundreds of them surounding Columbia when it was up there. Oh Ben, I can answer that question you asked Lilac. I don't always experience separation, either, but you can always tell because the surroundings always have something wrong or misplaced. Like the one time when my little dog had a big bald spot on his back. There will be some piece of furniture missing or that isn't yours or maybe the carpet will be different. Something will be not right. Animals and things will morph into something else. If you pull on your finger it will stretch when you are in the astral. I really like that one. The one where my body stretched from one end of the road to the other was way cool. You sure can't do that in the physical...hehe! The one where I flew right threw that cows head was really wild. ;D I could not stop. Hehe! It really knocked me for a loop and I was tangled in the barbwire fence for a second. It's funny how the cow didn't stop me but the fence did. Well, I could go on and on.
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Post by sxy on Sept 29, 2006 0:39:59 GMT -5
Crazycat Posted;
You guys need to listen to C2C more often
This is so true ,... I have heard the best and the most important stuff on this show , Glad to know I am not the only one that likes it ..!
~SXY~
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Sept 29, 2006 4:15:10 GMT -5
I have had many experiences where I did not recognize the transition but later knew I was out, this is the before period where it starts in a dream and ends up an obe.but u do not recognize the shift untill your awareness peaks, the hypnogogic state can be very enchanting yet scarey, I think alot of times we experience things in that state we can not explain, we are not out of body but yet asleep and aware, I know for myself in this state many odd things have happend to me..I have read on here many folks experiencing the same thing,
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Post by BenHangen on Sept 29, 2006 12:34:31 GMT -5
Ok, I misunderstood where you were going. To what you’re saying now that I know what you mean, YES and quit a few times. Like waking up and you find that you’re floating in the air staring a particular star in the sky and not having even the remotest idea of what you’re doing or what lead you there. Yep, been there.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Oct 3, 2006 8:10:01 GMT -5
C2C is rubbish LOL just kidding! haha...
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Post by ~*~ Nirvana ~*~ on Jun 23, 2007 5:04:25 GMT -5
Call me paranoid, but I have just read: The THREAT: Revealing the Secret Alien Agenda: Books: By David M. Jacobs. I have always believed in aliens and UFO. Once me and an ex bf possibly saw a UFO while driving on a day out in a rural area. We both saw a hoovering triangular shape in the rear view mirror and there seemed to be a deadly silence around us it was very strange. We both asked the other "Can you see what I can see?" I can't remember if there was any lost time, or not as we was on a day trip and wasn't really clock watching. It was one of the scariest thing thats that has happened to me (there have been a few other just as scary paranormal instances as well!) Now in this book it seems a lot of what the abductees experice I have done as well! For example waking up paralyzed and seeing a figure at the end my bed. I've awalys thought maybe that was sleep paralysis? I've had an OBE once but was able to bring myself out of it when I panicked and prayed to God! I've also had extremely lucid dreams which I can totally control. (sadly, I don't get as many as I would like) I've also had bruises and cuts that i cannot explain. Oh well, I know there's more to life than we can see, so I guess I'll have to wait and see if I wake up one day to a ton of aliens in the sky who have come to take over the world! lol
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Post by dancingraven on Jun 29, 2007 16:10:08 GMT -5
there are several advanced beings, that exist in human's world already, as projected people. The are masters of awareness, and as such do not need travel in a vessel as we know one to be, but travel as the world itself. all an alien needs to do, or any master of awareness, is use the awareness of the individual themselves, as the vessel. the scenery or world changes, for the abductee, as if they are in holographic projection, this projection being the ship itself. the abductee, continues his/her life, while never knowing they are abducted, the aliens then observe the partaker, in the most efficient manner. The partaker who catches on, learns advanced travel, and learns awareness, traveling as beams of light, using the surroundings as their vessel, to encounter these aliens, and other beings from other solar systems. The aliens in the said experience develop a symbiotic relationship with the individual, they being the vessel, and feeding of the perception and energies of the individual and growing, the individal experiencing life of different intensities and varieties. the alien in this case, is the case itself, alien is the world, or rather worlds are created in alien energy.
I'd say more, but really there isn't much point, and you'd prolly just tink im nuts! Its good like that too.
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Post by ~*~ Nirvana ~*~ on Jul 2, 2007 5:39:32 GMT -5
there are several advanced beings, that exist in human's world already, as projected people. The are masters of awareness, and as such do not need travel in a vessel as we know one to be, but travel as the world itself. all an alien needs to do, or any master of awareness, is use the awareness of the individual themselves, as the vessel. the scenery or world changes, for the abductee, as if they are in holographic projection, this projection being the ship itself. the abductee, continues his/her life, while never knowing they are abducted, the aliens then observe the partaker, in the most efficient manner. The partaker who catches on, learns advanced travel, and learns awareness, traveling as beams of light, using the surroundings as their vessel, to encounter these aliens, and other beings from other solar systems. The aliens in the said experience develop a symbiotic relationship with the individual, they being the vessel, and feeding of the perception and energies of the individual and growing, the individal experiencing life of different intensities and varieties. the alien in this case, is the case itself, alien is the world, or rather worlds are created in alien energy. I'd say more, but really there isn't much point, and you'd prolly just tink im nuts! Its good like that too. Well I am very open-minded so feel free to tell me any thing you know! I wasn't at all phased by the fact that aliens/masters of awareness are here... until I read about the evil, sadistic ones in 'The Threat' If all aliens were about peace, light and enlightenment I'd be well up for them! If they are here to enslave us and take over the world...then I'm not so happy about that! lol dancingraven is you ever wanna chat about this stuff just PM me or reply here...I'm really intrigued by it all, besides, I myself have had a few experiences that if I told people could easily lead me into being locked up safely somewhere! ;D
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