Wealth-Against the Rede?

[Silver MoonWolf]

I was wondering how others felt about using magick to increase your personal wealth. I am not talking about asking for anything silly like $100 million or something but enough to pay off the bills and still be able to live semi comfortably. I have heard others in Wicca say that to use magick to benefit yourself monetarily goes against the Wiccan Rede and can be considered negative energy while others say there is no problem with it. Personally I say if you are just trying to pay your bills and get by in life and you do not do anything negative with the money then why would the act of using magick to increase your wealth be negative? I bet these same people wouldn't be complaining if some of that wealth was being used to help others who were less fortunate. Opinions?

[Akeia]

"God takes care of those who take care of themselves". I believe that goes in wicca, too and Goddess, too.
If we not take care of ourselves, in that way we can have a strong and solid foot under the ground, no one else will do that for us, so if we want to help others or to serve Goddess, we need to have ourselves fully equiped.
"Ain`t it harm none, Do what ye will"

Does that make to someone the harm if we do this to ourselves. We don't grab a food from starving person's hands, or do not take the sunlight away. We only ask to the Universe, great Goddess Gaia if you wish, for us to feel comfortable.
-The universe is a catalogue and you can order what you wish. There is enough for anything and how it will be delivered to you, leave it to the universe. That's from the movie, The Secret.
I believe we have Goddess and God, our feminine and masculine inside of us, every time we look into mirror, into our eyes we can se our own divinity, some people simplt reject it or do not notice it simply. The Goddess is inside of us, so we should nurture her and heal her too.
For too many years we have been told what we can have and what we can't have. Who tells that? look at it, mostly those are people who already have it all , but have not even a half of "it" in the soul.
We are divine beings and we are God/Goddess. And do we can have that for us? Yup!

[Lena]

I love Akeia's answer. I say the same thing - absolutely it's right to use some magic to attract abundance your way. I don't know who says it's against Wicca's rede, from what I understand of Wicca it's a life affirming religion. Enjoy life, celebrate, and you can't very well celebrate on an empty stomach. I like a little expression that I learned from my Inner Temple Wicca book "for the good of all and harming none." You are an expression of divinity with rights and access to all the happiness and abundance your heart desires. So yes, ask for it, ask for what you want.

[Silver MoonWolf]

I have to agree with both of you. I have read and heard both from some Wiccans who consider asking for wealth to be a greedy thing but I think it is the intent within that defined whether magick is negative or positive. If you are using the maigck to bring wealth and you will be using that wealth for a positive purpose then what harm could there be in asking for wealth to find it's way to you.

[Dancing Bear]

Well in most all belif systems ther is some sort of ritual to help with abundance in wealth.. I have frog with six Chinese coins near my PC to attract good business..That if from feng Shui .
I also put to gold lotto ticket in the money corner of the house for luck.. These are sort of the same thing..
Go ahead and ask for millions if it comes your way half your luck,
I would do so much with that type of money.. and defiantely I would give to 'Whisper' who would get a huge chunk to save the Bears.. I do not think money is evil and therefore not a bad thing to ask for.. Money can do a lot of good...


DB xx

[Silver MoonWolf]

If I won millions I would donate to some of the foundations that help wolves, and I would give to other wildlife foundations in general. I would love to go and actually be a part of some organization that goes out into the field and studies the wolves and lives with them. I would also do the random acts of kindness thing like some people used to do like go into a grocery store and pay for everyones groceries who happen to be in line at the time, random stuff like that is great.

[ladybleu]

I must agree with the responses to your question. I also never heard of it attracting bad luck to use magick to gain wealth. But again, it will only be given if the Goddess/God see that you need it. I don't see alot of rich pagans running around nor rich christians so it must be a necessity thing, ask you can't do any wrong in asking, its after the results that you can get into trouble. Be sure to share your wealth and you will be rewarded as in anything you have of yourself.

[Akeia]

I would love to go and actually be a part of some organization that goes out into the field and studies the wolves and lives with them.

ME TOO!!! But really, you know...i love wolves and other animals as bears and so, and would give some of the money to them.

[SnowMoon]

i see no problem with it. but involve money is tricky by magick.