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Post by zayin on Dec 20, 2005 22:22:10 GMT -5
Well, they have a 'unique' way of getting through. I'd say more but i wouldn't want to ruin the intent.
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Post by zayin on Dec 20, 2005 22:26:52 GMT -5
The most confusing part of the book for me= the nagual. In the book it says only the nagual can move the AP(true). The nagual has a unique energy configuration, that makes this movement possible(true). But to me, it implied that only certain special people (naguals) could do this(not true). But really you just have to let the nagual flow, by conditioning the tonal. Really everyone can allow their nagual to flow, you just have to do the work. I had figured, a while ago, that one would need to find a special person to do this, but no not true. We all can. Yay.
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Post by existenceisadream on Dec 21, 2005 1:43:25 GMT -5
Agreed Incubus! I'm sure you, like me, have let the nagual flow plenty and have had your AP shift to many different positions. I Believe everybody does except most people aren't aware of it. I realize that us warriors with no help (such as Don Juan for CC) we need to embark on the journey with as much impeccabilty as possible. We don't have someone telling us what we're doing wrong and so on as CC did. Thing is everything I've seemed to learn in life has been pretty much self taught by doing or reading how to do it so I feel pretty comfortable doing it this way. It is good though to have others on-line (hard to find people in the physical who are warriors) to talk with and discuss such topics.
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Post by nani on Dec 21, 2005 10:39:50 GMT -5
and me too I do agree to both of you. Beside that, its also the deep trust and the confidence that life itself will show the way, will open the gates, for the ones who are looking for. Thats my absolutely experience and so conviction. In fact maybe that could be a point I may could miss at the CC lectures, I didnt miss them really, cause the stories are full of excitenment and lessons, but for someone who is searching and like you say, someone who is without a master, it might be very helpful to get the hint that truth is lying on the streets, so to say, anytime. So I do listen a lot to the hints of life, the little ones, the so called coincidences - the pure magic, which exists even in daily routine. The Dao (god/the flow) is not appearing and disappearing, it just IS. But anyway, yes this group exchange is very most helpful.
So I would be interested in: how far did you reach till now with your increased experiences with the Assemblage Point? In which way you are still working with the AP? What would be the next step to reach for (all of) you? lgn
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Post by zayin on Dec 21, 2005 16:07:30 GMT -5
Agreed Incubus! I'm sure you, like me, have let the nagual flow plenty and have had your AP shift to many different positions. I Believe everybody does except most people aren't aware of it. I realize that us warriors with no help (such as Don Juan for CC) we need to embark on the journey with as much impeccabilty as possible. We don't have someone telling us what we're doing wrong and so on as CC did. Thing is everything I've seemed to learn in life has been pretty much self taught by doing or reading how to do it so I feel pretty comfortable doing it this way. It is good though to have others on-line (hard to find people in the physical who are warriors) to talk with and discuss such topics. Existenceisadream I am much the same as you, actually it surprises me how much of a mirror you are for me, and am sure it was not chance our paths crossed . I too have had little to no guidence in my life, and have also made it mostly on my own. I agree it is more difficult, to nearly impossible, for us to stop the parasite without the help of others to point out our faults, and we need to also rely on others on the path of freedom (few and far between) for help. However I see there is more than meets the eye, when it comes to help. I am seeing my intent manifest in strange ways, like never before, and cannot be soley from my own intent, but a collective intent. My intent is far too scattered and not at all impeccable to be all on my own, and so I presume is helped along by the collective intent of others. I need to condition my tonal further to see it, and interact more clearly. I've given up the discussion of my path with others, unless asked directly. The further I go along this path, the less sane I sound. I am seemly questioning everything I do more and more.
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Post by zayin on Dec 21, 2005 16:26:45 GMT -5
So I would be interested in: how far did you reach till now with your increased experiences with the Assemblage Point? In which way you are still working with the AP? What would be the next step to reach for (all of) you? lgn Nani, I have reached a few different states of awareness (not all seemly understood, or named), and can feel the shifts, however I am not yet able to completely control the shifts. I am learning how to feel the awareness, and this seems to bring on shifts. I see that awareness is a muscle and when flexed it grows. I am also able to see 'death the adviser' more and more lately, which is slightly uneasy. The place of 'no pity', I find completely shattering, and makes me laugh and laugh and laugh, untill I can't stop, and the smile on my face remains for a long time! Unfortunatly, I am finding these states of awareness come and go, and I revert back, not to the exact place as before, but close to it. Too much of my rightful energy, is presently tied up holding together my perceptions, and self-importance.
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