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Post by osiris on May 14, 2006 19:41:49 GMT -5
Hmm i printed off week one for myself at the link you gave cc but it says week 5 is dealing with negative entities?? Maybe its changed a little? 1) Introduction 2) How to astral project 3) waking up in dreams 4) mantras for astral projection 5) dealing with negative entities 6) dreams and astral experiances 7) general dream symbols i thought it was nine weeks? Umm oh by the way i printed all seven lol. It seemed the first couple of weeks were pretty basic and made for someone who has no study of any kind yes?
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Post by crazycat on May 14, 2006 23:44:22 GMT -5
Two of the weeks much not be there. The negative energy week was on week 7 when I took it. I don't know why they wait to almost the end for that, for some people did have bad experiences even in the beginning.
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Post by crazycat on May 15, 2006 0:15:48 GMT -5
Umm if you need to take those urges out on someone its a rough job but i volunteer . What does the class teach you guys to pay attention to so you can become lucid in your dreams? Also i wondered how is it recommended to get into the trance state? Im getting tired of not being able to project so i have made it priority #1 until i get bored or until i do it. lol It sounds like you guys have come along way i look forward to taking the class next. Or i could just go over all the notes you guys pointed me to and do it myself but whats the fun of that? It would be better and more fun to take it with others, beside I think there is more power when it is done as a group effort. If you really wanted to get a jumb on things you could order the book and be reading it. The book is selling for about $10.00, I think. I didn't order the book because I had all the material printed out from when they had in in PDF format.
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Post by crazycat on May 15, 2006 0:32:08 GMT -5
I went and looked at the material/lessons that Sxy found on the net and that must have been when they first began having those courses. What I could see, the week three lesson has a lot of what week 5 is about now.
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Post by osiris on May 15, 2006 14:01:06 GMT -5
Excellant thank you. I dont think it will matter much. Either way al the articles i have a feeling will end my wait. I seem to work better own my on but ill try both im going to read through and talk with you guys and than take it in june.
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Post by Lena on May 15, 2006 23:00:02 GMT -5
Ooh, I'll be happy to retake it in June! I was thinking Searching Within next, but honestly, I don't feel like searching within much for right now My life is a bit hectic and unstable at the moment, hopefully, it'll be all straightened out by June.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on May 15, 2006 23:27:14 GMT -5
is this the free course you guys are refering to??, and if not I was wondering which one is that will be coming up soon? thanks!
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Post by crazycat on May 16, 2006 3:36:23 GMT -5
Yes, it is the one Ronni, but I was thinking it started in July. I think they give a months break between.
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Post by osiris on May 17, 2006 14:19:53 GMT -5
It may be July im not sure. Actually just after reading the first 2 courses ive had some very distinct differant things happen. My arm fell into my mattress 2 nights ago...yaaaaa. It was very odd and woke me up immediatly. I know the time is comeing though and that renews interest in a way i cannot even tell you..well most of you know already. Im not too in tune with my heart it seems so i fell asleep to my breathing.
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Post by osiris on May 25, 2006 17:03:40 GMT -5
So did everyone quit this program or what? come on come on...lets here about new out of body experiances?
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Post by Lena on May 25, 2006 18:12:38 GMT -5
I admit that I quit following the program, having hard time keeping up with my dream journal for that matter. I had to move, and I don't think I can even find the book in all the unpacked boxes. Hmm..not even sure where I'm moving next. But hey, I do hope to pick it up again in the summer. I felt energy sensations every night on this program, pretty amazing for just three weeks if you ask me. And I had what I call half OBEs. The program is great!! I think for right now, it's just simple meditaiton before bed, dreams in the morning, and maybe some reality checks to become lucid. Those are the basics, and it never hurts to work on them. Plus, I am trying to be more aware during the day.
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Post by osiris on May 30, 2006 17:29:32 GMT -5
It sounds like a good excuse....lol jk if your moving im surprised you have time to even come on here to see us much less to practice. So you dont know where your moving to?
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Post by Lena on Jun 1, 2006 14:49:05 GMT -5
lol yeah, I'm good at coming up with excuses My dreams were finally more clear today, awesome!! I've been hating my dreams, so fuzzy, and depressing too..I even remember becoming lucid, have no idea what the dream was, but I remember that I became lucid..I just kept going in the dream, I know I enjoyed looking at all the different details, because I'm still amazed at what my mind can come up with.. So osiris, Linda, and everyone else, are you guys taking a course staring in July?? And if so, which one? I'm just thinking Searching Within or Astral Projection...hmm, both seem important.. Osiris, I'm not busy anymore, just a bit disoriented. I moved in with my parents, and I'm pondering what to do from here, where to go, what to do, pretty much everything seems to be up in the air.
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Post by osiris on Jun 1, 2006 15:37:49 GMT -5
Sounds like you need to hit the "living in the present" area. Whatever you do throughout the day can be done in a meditative state. Just look at whatever you are doing as your heart beat or your breath it will clear up your dreams for you. Also a good lesson from Existence for me is the study of your intent. You can transfer that intent over to the dream world as well. I also seem to remember that if you :will yourself to see clearer you will. Take time and travel or do something you would never normally do it sounds like the right time for that. Love and harmony Todd.
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Post by crazycat on Jun 1, 2006 23:38:07 GMT -5
Hi Lena, I just wanted to let you know you don't have to give up that course just because you got behind a little. the last few weeks is mostly practicing what you learned already. Like this week is about about trying to project to Mt. Everest and on to Egypt to the pyramids next week. All three courses join up on that, so that is what I have been trying to do this week. I never made it while I was taking the Astral projection course. So I thought maybe I could this time. I did the goggle earth program Nani told me about so I could have a good feel of what it's like to have a bird's eye view of that. That goggle earth program is really cool, it you have not downloaded it yet. If you haven't and want to just put "goggle earth" in the search engine and it will take you right there where you can download it for free. You can get really closeup to just about anything in the world. I could actually see people on the Eiffel tower as I hovered over it. Really amazing!
I made a comment to one of the teachers that I did not think I was doing so good in the Searching Within course and thought I should take it over. She said there should be no need to take it over, but would be best to go on to the next course for one builds upon the other and I will learn more in the next course to help me in what I've learned on this course. She also told another person who had not had an astral projection yet, that they should go on as well for what you learn in each course will continue helping with astral projection. She said we should keep working with the material in each course and you will eventual master astral projection. So don't give up. Go on to the next course. That's what I'm going to be doing.
Osiris, I do think these course will be easy for you since you do know a lot of gnostic teachings already. It should not be very hard for you to learn to project.
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Post by osiris on Jun 2, 2006 19:36:51 GMT -5
Thats what i keep telling myself damnit...so whats wrong..am i not supposed to,am i here for another reason? is ther a block in me or my ego somewhere. I decided that if i do not project by the next course i wil take it and all my time will go into just projection. I picked up a book that i will read between than and now and i just have to limit my esoteric interests until i master this... Did you know i hang out on another forum where they are offering a million dollars as reward for proof of mystical ability? I believe it includes travel and anything else but you have to prove it beyond any doubt. At the same place they have posts where people want you to enter a room in there house and tell them what is in a certain spot...
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Post by crazycat on Jun 4, 2006 15:05:52 GMT -5
Lena, I was reading on the gnosticweb course AP&D forum last night and I was wondering what you thought of their teaching that we should keep our dreams secret and not tell them or have others help with interpreting them. That teaching just doesn't make any sense to me. The way I see it some peole have the gift to play some musical instrument, while other do not. Some are good at this thing or that and others not. Some people have the gift of dream interpretation. Why would it be alright to share anything else about your life, but not something you dreamed? After all we all have the Divine Mother and Father within us and each one's D Mother/Father supposily comes from the same spirit source, right? I have to ask, why would the D Mother/Father want us to have secrets? What purpose would that serve? Besides that how would we have ever known that dream sysmbols have common meanings if no one ever shared the dreams to learn that that is so. After all, Jung must have studied lots and lots of dreams of other people to come to such conclusions. Hehe! What I think is that they just made that up as a rule because they didn't want to waste their time trying to interpert student's dreams on the course forum, rather than discuss the course material itself. That would make sense to me, but the reason they say not to tell about your dreams does not. What do you think? Sandy on PRL... I really feel she has the gift of dream interpertation. By just reading how she interpreted all those dreams have helped me in knowing how to interpret my own dreams. She helped me to have an interest in that. I had some dream books before ever meeting Sandy, but never really took them serious. I just looked at dream interpretation, astrology, numbers, and all that stuff as games mostly, something for intertainment. But now I believe that there is something to all of it.
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Post by Lena on Jun 5, 2006 16:29:06 GMT -5
Lena, I was reading on the gnosticweb course AP&D forum last night and I was wondering what you thought of their teaching that we should keep our dreams secret and not tell them or have others help with interpreting them. Oops, that's not the reason I haven't been posting dreams ;D Ya know, I thought about this teaching as well, when I read it. I usually share dreams freely, but sometimes I don't like my boyfriend or my friends to look through my dream journal, makes me feel all vulnerable. It's kind of like letting people in your head, because there is no hiding feelings or emotions in dreams. I mean, OK, if I can someone doesn't mean I want to kill them in reality, but there dream still came out from some inner feeling, right? On the other hand, I don't like the part of gnosticweb teachings, where they are all secretive. I have to admit though it helps to maintain a certain order to their lessons, instead of diving into topics randomly. Yes, some people truely have a gift at interpreting dreams, Sandy being one of them. But maybe with some practice we can all get a hang of interpreting our own dreams...With Sandy, I believe, a lot of times, it's like automatic writing. She is sharing wisdom that's coming through her. That's the impression I got anyway. It's very helpful to have somebody's input, especially when you are feeling a block in that area of your life. Thanks for asking, hmm hmm maybe I'll even post a dream
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Post by osiris on Jun 7, 2006 17:53:55 GMT -5
Many things about MW make me feel strange. Like the name of the teacher is the same as satan. And the total secrecy. I could understand secrecy if it was a pay course. Also the stuck up attitudes of the people on the forum. Jeash if you have not taken there courses than you might as well go somewhere else. They act like they are beyond so dont waste there time.
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Post by crazycat on Jun 7, 2006 18:16:00 GMT -5
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