Ronni-Tarot Question

[nani]

Hi Ronni,

you may not have the time now cause you are working so much, but maybe somewhen you`ll have again and so I yet may ask you if you could help me by Tarot with a special question referring to my mother. Its that I just dont know how to do it right anymore, I dont know how much to leave her on her own so she stays- or gets more independant and how much to be there for her to support her emotional needs and be there for her with love and care. The borders of this help/dependance-relationship are getting more and more blurred, and I just would appreciate a confirmation of what Im doing or a hint for a change I should aspire, cause I could not find out by myself or meditation, maybe because Im too much a part of the whole.
but truly there is no hurry at all and please only do it if you really feel that you have the calm and the time for it lgn

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

Hi nani, well I will be happy to give a reading as soon as I can.
so you are wondering what to do about helping your mom..correct and the overall aide and constant energy it takes to take care of someone???
well My mom is going this very thing right now nani with her mom and I told my mom that she is doing way to much, she is the only one taking care of her mom,and it is draining her big time, and I feel so bad, because my grandpa died and now my mom feels obligated to take care of my grandma, I told my mom she needs to live for herself as well..and balance herself by seeing to her own needs first than others,but that is differant than you I think because my mom does not take care of herself and she really needs too, otherwise she will just get sicker..
so I know this is hard for you nani, and Im sure youll come up with the right decision in this..if you would like I can set you up on a site where you can ask a tarot question
what is to come?
just click on that and let me know what card you get, try to focus on your question while clicking the button,
if you cant do this don't worry about it, perhaps I can draw a few cards for you..
I wish you the best and your mom too..

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

okay nani heres the link, just click on your question and come back and tell me the card, okay..

ronnistarot.bravehost.com/tarotron.html

[nani]

hey Ronni, thanks for your comforting words, these have helped me already in some way, still processing..

as always when it comes to press a button I did something wrong Lol.. but I`ve then taken out my old cards and put 2 cards:
Ace of cups and Page of swords, I only remember roughly some meanings, somehting like:
Cups: just give and let it flow - dont think about.
Swords: a lot of thinking though.
Maybe I just should overcome my thinking that anything of what I do is wrong, not enough or too much. Ronni, thanks a lot, you`ve helped me already. And whenever you can of course I would appreciate some words of you to these 2 cards. lgn

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

okay nani thats great I can help, okay so did you focus on your mom when you drew these two cards?
well the reason I ask is because the ace, usually represents new love, yep this is my new love card, just like the ace of wands is my new life card..lol
but serously, perhaps the cards are going to something a bit deeper here..as far the page usually for myself this cards means bad news is on the horizen, however it also means new thoughts,replacing old,..and perhaps a person that is very mindful...and not as willing to listen as well as others do..
does this make sense?
I would draw one card, focus on your mom, ask"what should I follow with my mom's path" or something like that, ..than cut and draw a card..I didn't know you had a deck thats pretty cool nani! what deck is it??
let me know of the card..

[nani]

first I like to say that I wish for your mother that she can find an equilibrated centre between giving and taking care for her self - she can be glad and proud to have such a wonderful daughter like you sweety. And she is a wonderful mom too.

I did one more card yesterday, I think they are `Aleister Crawley`cards. I got a card of wands, but now have it at home and dont rememeber the number of it. But I rememeber its also called something like "battle/debate", maybe its the 5 of wands. I`ll look exactly later. (edit: 7 of wands)
But surely it doenst mean anything harmonious lol, but how could it, the situation just isnt easy. I can understand that this means that there are tendencies that it will continue to be a kind of exercise for all of us family to find a balance between productively-challenging my mother (cause she has the tendency to give herself up and blame fate - but nevertheless she is sooo brave) and on the other hand to just accept whatever she decides for herself.

About the first 2 cards, yes I`ve truly concentrated on my mom and what you are saying fits in certain ways very well, as Ace-cups are a symbol for also "unconditional" Love (which exists between parents and childs) and with your description of the page of swords:

however it also means new thoughts,replacing old,..and perhaps a person that is very mindful...and not as willing to listen as well as others do..

you described my mom as well as us the cildren, a kind of stubborn we are, all of us lol ! And yes for "new thoughts, replacing the old" thought-mechanism Im exactly searching for, cause this mechanisms do truly hinder freedom, love and progress.
Hey all this is really insightful, thank you very much. If you can add something about the wand-card, be it an advice, a warning or something even the most little advantageous lol, then please let me know.
This thread is quite personal, but I feel okay with it right now - if I later on would feel like deleting I`ll then just tell you and do it, or I would ask you to do it, is this okay?

So how was your 5th working-day hey??? lgn

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

okay nani well its up to you if you want this thread deleted , we can do that..
let me know darlin
and yes thats great you are ablet to fit the ace and the page to a understanding of your situation..
and thanks for the compliments about my momy and me!hehe, my mom is so kind she sent me money in the mail yesterday and she is poor..god If anything happend to her, my heart would be broken..
but okay nani the 7 of wands is a card that shows struggles, usually it is pety things, such as little arguments and also daily chores and things we need to get done and feel pressured to do so..
also this card shows that you will come out on top, which means even though there will be struggles you will succeed and things will all work out, because of determination to carry things out and make peace/get the job done..
so its not a bad card at all..just know that you may have to push through a few things in order to gain victory..
and I wish you all the best with your mom, just know that if it comes to the point to where you are doing only for her, stop and think of yourself and your needs as well..I think this should come first..and if nessecary bring a third party in to help you nani..by all means if you feel overwhelmed , ask someone for help..
because my mom does not think of herself, I told her if she died I would be so mad, because she never lived for herself only for others..and I hope she starts doing this soon, because she is one of those types of people who live for others and do for them before herself...and she is getting sicker and older ya know so I worry about her all the time..
Im like the parent sometimes..lol but we have a friendship ,and Im thankful for her..she raised four kids on her own and did a fine job..and i tell her this alot..because I think sometimes she feels she didn't do so well, but she should know she did, and with her mother being sick too..she doesn't want a nurse to come to her house or anything so its up to my mom to do everything for her, which to me is not acceptable..I don't know. this is getting personal here..maybe we should pm eachother..
well regardless just know things will work out..and what kind of relationship would you say you have with your mom?
pm me if you want..

[nani]

Thanks a lot Ronni, for the card-interpretation which you have explained well and finally so positive- you are really a great adviser, you know how to give one a good feeling, even in difficult situations, that is so precious!! Also thanks for sharing some personal things too and for that offer that we could keep on talking per pm - I surely will appreciate that offer yes! At the moment I feel that I would like to place it back a little though, because till 15th sept. there`s still some support, but from then on not anymore again, and then surely it would be very helpful to have a friend who is well versed. lgn