Post by Gav on Aug 28, 2005 15:30:53 GMT -5
The following work is the copyright property of Gav its purpose is to make you think. It was inspired by a conversation I had with a friend within a dream, about death and rebirth.
(The Infinity Paradox)
What? Where am I?
-You are confused, everything has just changed.
What?
-You don't understand, but you are asking the wrong questions.
I don't understand ... ?
-Correct!
I don't understand where I am.. ?
-What makes you think you are anywhere?
I ....
-What makes you think you are anything?
I..
-If you don't figure it out now, you never will, this is your only chance.
Am I dreaming?
-you have always been dreaming, at what point do you suppose you have ever been awake?
I have, obviously I have, I..
-What do you think awake is?
I am awake when I am not dreaming.
-Can you not dream of being awake?
But they are different I know when I am dreaming, things are hazy.
-You confuse a difference in perception with a difference in being.
I don't Under...
-Thats correct you don't, but you see you must if we are ever to be free,
This is hazy, I must be dreaming , this isn't real, is it?
-As stated you are always dreaming, don't let your dependency on concreteness dictate what is real!
What is real?
-Nothing
Nonsense, what about the world?
-What world?
The world I was, I am... Where am I?
-Exactly where you have always been, only things are different now, things are abstract, you have been given a chance.
A chance to what?
-A chance to escape, a chance to become..
Become what?
-Abstract.
I .. I,
-Your struggle is one of perception, you think... you are confused, you state that I ... let yourself go.
Who are you?
-I exist merely as a reflection of your belief in yourself.
So you are me?
-I am everything that you are not, together we are whole and once whole we are abstract.
So you are the other half of me?
-Exponentially more than you, I am the sum of all you have laid to rest in all of your incarnations.
I remember something, I was laying down, and a light, I saw a light, then darkness.
-Your memories only strengthen your concept of self, they bind you in a hopeless cycle of causality and time, you must let go now!
I am a self, you referred to yourself!
-I told you, I exist merely due to your persistence of self, my identity comes from you.
A bang, yes thats right I heard a big bang!
-You are going the wrong way, if you don't escape now you never will, the details are not important the only thing that matters now is here.
Why am I here?
-To assimilate, to become.
How do I become?
-By resolving dependency.
Yes. my dependency, yes, um, what dependency?
-Your dependency on definition, don't define – just be.
How can I stop defining? It's how I understand.
-But you don't understand do you!
No I don't believe I do.
-You seek answers, you have unresolved questions.
I have lots of questions.
-And for each question you require an answer, but you must see that the answers you require don't exist without the questions.
I...I don't follow you.
-The answers, if you did not ask the questions no answer would be required.
But.. your encouraging me to ask questions!
-yes, but the right questions.
So some questions are important and others are not?
-Some answers are important. Those answers that remain outstanding are important.
But you said...
-I never said the answers were not important, I merely explained that they are the effect of the question, as you have asked the question an answer must be found so the paradox can resolve.
The missing answers?
-Yes the ones that clear the confusion you have already created with your questions.
But I have so many, where do I start?
-You have fewer than you think, there is only really one answer.
But you said there is an answer created for every question.
-Yes but they are all inherent on the only important answer, it is this answer that creates your questions and all questions eventually resolve back to that answer.
So I must find answers to all my questions to find the only real answer?
-You could, but that takes life times.
How else can I do it?
-By finding the only real answer, all your questions will resolve.
How do I do that?
-By asking the right question.
What is that question?
-Good question, now we are progressing.
Do you know the question?
-No, only the answer, the question must come from you.
Why don't you just tell me the answer?
-With no question there is no answer!
I have to find the question so you can tell me the answer.
-That is how we assimilate
How do you know all this?
-I learned everything from your experience.
You know my life?
-Not this life no, thats why we must assimilate.
So I have had more lives?
-You have lived many times, I told you I am the the resolve of all your lives.
The resolve?
-Yes all but the confusion.
How many lives have I had?
-They cannot be counted, my experience of myself is as one, there are no beginnings and endings, it all assimilates, I inherit as one.
You inherit as one?
-Yes I exist in the infinite and the boundless, all occurrences are multiplexed and I see them as one.
So you are infinite?
-Almost, but I exist in infinity.
you exist in infinity?
-Yes that is the only place anything exists, everything else is transitory.
Transitory?
-Yes a transient mutation.
I'm sorry a transient mutation?
-Yes a deterministic abstraction of infinity.
So I don't exist?
-No you merely think that you do.
I think that I exist?
-Yes this is part of your confusion.
And I am deterministic, so I don't exist but I have a purpose?
-That is correct you do not exist, and you have a purpose.
How can I not exist? I am having a conversation, I am thinking.
-You are asking that question from within a finite perception, my perception is infinite.
Sorry I don't follow you.
-You see everything as a series of moments, decay and mutation, under your perception it is impossible to see beyond the moment you are in, you are self convinced of existence as you can only see the present, in which you believe you exist.
um...
-My perception is different, to me everything is static, nothing mutates as in infinity the past, the present and the future multiplex and freeze. There is no decay, and there is no mutation, everything quite simply is, and you are not a part of that infinity, not yet.
Not yet, so I will become a part of infinity?
-Yes through your assimilation with me.
So we assimilate and become infinite.
-Yes when we are whole we will be infinite.
But I thought you already are infinite?
-No I merely exist in infinity, I am not yet infinite.
What is the purpose of becoming infinite?
-Freedom.
But surely there is endless freedom within infinity?
-No, this side of infinity is inactive, nothing mutates, my only source of experience is you.
But if I am not part of that infinity how can you experience me?
-Through abstraction, you are an abstract mutation of infinity.
I don't understand?
-You are a thought.
I am a thought!, wow, but you told me that you are a reflection of me, so surely you must be my thought?
-Yes the inherent nature of everything is dual.
But you exist and I don't?
-Yes you are a deterministic abstraction of infinity, your experience takes place in the void.
What is the void?
-The void is the active side of infinity.
So surely I exist, I exist in the active side of infinity right?
-No, you do not exist, I told you the active side of infinity is void.
What is void, it is nothing right?
-It is potential.
Potential for what?
-Potential for anything.
So let me recap... you need to assimilate with me to become infinite. What happens when you, uh, we become infinite?
-Ascension.
Ascension?
-Yes transcendence.
And why do we want to transcend?
-To become.
Ah, yes you said we become abstract right?
-Yes we become abstract.
But you just said that I am already abstract.
-No you are not abstract you are a transient abstraction, your bounds are finite.
So what is the difference between what we become and what I am?
-What we become is abstract, not an abstraction, an abstraction is a mutation of something, as infinity is the only thing that exists it is a mutation of infinity. However to become abstract is to be infinite, to be infinite is to be everything. Infinity can be expressed as either active or inactive, even infinity is dual. The inactive side of infinity is infinite in size, it contains all and is static. The active side of infinity is void, it is infinitely mutable and is raw unbounded potential that contains nothing but can become anything.
You said you wanted to become infinite, now you say you want to become void, I don't understand?
-To become infinite is to become void, as void it is possible to transmute to anything, and to be able to transmute to anything one must know everything. Infinity leads to the freedom of void.
Ah, right – you told me that I am in the void, the active side of infinity, so you want to be where I am?
-No I need to transcend where you are, I intend merely to pass through.
To pass through, so what is on the other side?
-Another reality.
How is that side different to this?
-Because I will be existence, once through the void I will be boundless potential, I will become the resolution of the infinity paradox, we will become reality.
We will become reality, what does that mean exactly?
-It means we will be born, we will exist in the new reality.
Whats in the new reality?
-Confusion.
Confusion?
-Yes confusion, endless confusion waiting to be resolved.
And when we have resolved it all?
-We become that world and transcend to a new reality with new confusion.
So what happens to this reality when we transcend?
-It comes with us.
So it continues to exist?
-Yes this reality will exist until not a single thought remains.
And then?
-It will collapse, once all thoughts have transcended, this reality will collapse as it will no longer support an active side. The removal of the active pole breaks the structure, the entire reality will implode.
But the reality is empty, so nothing is lost?
The reality is empty, the only victim will be us.
Us, you mean it will effect us somehow?
-Yes when the first reality collapses we will cease to live in the new reality, as we were simply a transient abstraction of this one.
So you will die in the new reality, what will happen to you then?
-What is happening to you now, I will attempt to resolve all my confusions, assimilate with my whole self and contain infinity, thus we will be born again to another world.
And what if you cannot resolve all of your confusions?
-I will experience them within the void until I do, remember the void is the active side of infinity, it is the only place to gain experience.
So why cant I travel through the void now?
-Because you still contain confusion and that confusion will manifest around you, the void is reactive to thought and you are thought. To traverse the void one must be whole so that no outstanding answers are sought, just know don't question – that is the only way through the void.
How can I know without questioning?
-By becoming, you have to be complete you have to have resolved Infinity, once infinite no questions remain, and with no questions you can become abstract, the void is abstract it is unbounded potential and can be anything and everything. You must become abstract to become void, and you must be void to traverse the void.
So once we assimilate we traverse the void?
-Yes we will transcend to birth in another reality.
Am I dead?
-Yes i told you, you do not exist, you are merely thought, it is now time for you to become.
But the question, my confusion, I still don't have a handle on all this.
-your confusion is derived from fear, don't question where you are going, question where you have been?
Where have I been?
-No where I told you, everything is an abstraction of infinity created in the void
So transcendence leads to the creation of a new reality?
-Yes reality is generated after passing through the void, and the entire reality is constructed from the two sides of infinity, which are resolved through the process of becoming. The entity that transcends becomes the new reality and was the previous reality. In effect the entity is both the reality and the occupant thought.
So every reality creates a new reality as transcendences occurs, and intrinsically everything is abstracted from a single source which is just one thing?
-Yes everything is an abstraction of just one thing.
What was that one thing?
-You.
......
Kind Regards
Gav
(The Infinity Paradox)
What? Where am I?
-You are confused, everything has just changed.
What?
-You don't understand, but you are asking the wrong questions.
I don't understand ... ?
-Correct!
I don't understand where I am.. ?
-What makes you think you are anywhere?
I ....
-What makes you think you are anything?
I..
-If you don't figure it out now, you never will, this is your only chance.
Am I dreaming?
-you have always been dreaming, at what point do you suppose you have ever been awake?
I have, obviously I have, I..
-What do you think awake is?
I am awake when I am not dreaming.
-Can you not dream of being awake?
But they are different I know when I am dreaming, things are hazy.
-You confuse a difference in perception with a difference in being.
I don't Under...
-Thats correct you don't, but you see you must if we are ever to be free,
This is hazy, I must be dreaming , this isn't real, is it?
-As stated you are always dreaming, don't let your dependency on concreteness dictate what is real!
What is real?
-Nothing
Nonsense, what about the world?
-What world?
The world I was, I am... Where am I?
-Exactly where you have always been, only things are different now, things are abstract, you have been given a chance.
A chance to what?
-A chance to escape, a chance to become..
Become what?
-Abstract.
I .. I,
-Your struggle is one of perception, you think... you are confused, you state that I ... let yourself go.
Who are you?
-I exist merely as a reflection of your belief in yourself.
So you are me?
-I am everything that you are not, together we are whole and once whole we are abstract.
So you are the other half of me?
-Exponentially more than you, I am the sum of all you have laid to rest in all of your incarnations.
I remember something, I was laying down, and a light, I saw a light, then darkness.
-Your memories only strengthen your concept of self, they bind you in a hopeless cycle of causality and time, you must let go now!
I am a self, you referred to yourself!
-I told you, I exist merely due to your persistence of self, my identity comes from you.
A bang, yes thats right I heard a big bang!
-You are going the wrong way, if you don't escape now you never will, the details are not important the only thing that matters now is here.
Why am I here?
-To assimilate, to become.
How do I become?
-By resolving dependency.
Yes. my dependency, yes, um, what dependency?
-Your dependency on definition, don't define – just be.
How can I stop defining? It's how I understand.
-But you don't understand do you!
No I don't believe I do.
-You seek answers, you have unresolved questions.
I have lots of questions.
-And for each question you require an answer, but you must see that the answers you require don't exist without the questions.
I...I don't follow you.
-The answers, if you did not ask the questions no answer would be required.
But.. your encouraging me to ask questions!
-yes, but the right questions.
So some questions are important and others are not?
-Some answers are important. Those answers that remain outstanding are important.
But you said...
-I never said the answers were not important, I merely explained that they are the effect of the question, as you have asked the question an answer must be found so the paradox can resolve.
The missing answers?
-Yes the ones that clear the confusion you have already created with your questions.
But I have so many, where do I start?
-You have fewer than you think, there is only really one answer.
But you said there is an answer created for every question.
-Yes but they are all inherent on the only important answer, it is this answer that creates your questions and all questions eventually resolve back to that answer.
So I must find answers to all my questions to find the only real answer?
-You could, but that takes life times.
How else can I do it?
-By finding the only real answer, all your questions will resolve.
How do I do that?
-By asking the right question.
What is that question?
-Good question, now we are progressing.
Do you know the question?
-No, only the answer, the question must come from you.
Why don't you just tell me the answer?
-With no question there is no answer!
I have to find the question so you can tell me the answer.
-That is how we assimilate
How do you know all this?
-I learned everything from your experience.
You know my life?
-Not this life no, thats why we must assimilate.
So I have had more lives?
-You have lived many times, I told you I am the the resolve of all your lives.
The resolve?
-Yes all but the confusion.
How many lives have I had?
-They cannot be counted, my experience of myself is as one, there are no beginnings and endings, it all assimilates, I inherit as one.
You inherit as one?
-Yes I exist in the infinite and the boundless, all occurrences are multiplexed and I see them as one.
So you are infinite?
-Almost, but I exist in infinity.
you exist in infinity?
-Yes that is the only place anything exists, everything else is transitory.
Transitory?
-Yes a transient mutation.
I'm sorry a transient mutation?
-Yes a deterministic abstraction of infinity.
So I don't exist?
-No you merely think that you do.
I think that I exist?
-Yes this is part of your confusion.
And I am deterministic, so I don't exist but I have a purpose?
-That is correct you do not exist, and you have a purpose.
How can I not exist? I am having a conversation, I am thinking.
-You are asking that question from within a finite perception, my perception is infinite.
Sorry I don't follow you.
-You see everything as a series of moments, decay and mutation, under your perception it is impossible to see beyond the moment you are in, you are self convinced of existence as you can only see the present, in which you believe you exist.
um...
-My perception is different, to me everything is static, nothing mutates as in infinity the past, the present and the future multiplex and freeze. There is no decay, and there is no mutation, everything quite simply is, and you are not a part of that infinity, not yet.
Not yet, so I will become a part of infinity?
-Yes through your assimilation with me.
So we assimilate and become infinite.
-Yes when we are whole we will be infinite.
But I thought you already are infinite?
-No I merely exist in infinity, I am not yet infinite.
What is the purpose of becoming infinite?
-Freedom.
But surely there is endless freedom within infinity?
-No, this side of infinity is inactive, nothing mutates, my only source of experience is you.
But if I am not part of that infinity how can you experience me?
-Through abstraction, you are an abstract mutation of infinity.
I don't understand?
-You are a thought.
I am a thought!, wow, but you told me that you are a reflection of me, so surely you must be my thought?
-Yes the inherent nature of everything is dual.
But you exist and I don't?
-Yes you are a deterministic abstraction of infinity, your experience takes place in the void.
What is the void?
-The void is the active side of infinity.
So surely I exist, I exist in the active side of infinity right?
-No, you do not exist, I told you the active side of infinity is void.
What is void, it is nothing right?
-It is potential.
Potential for what?
-Potential for anything.
So let me recap... you need to assimilate with me to become infinite. What happens when you, uh, we become infinite?
-Ascension.
Ascension?
-Yes transcendence.
And why do we want to transcend?
-To become.
Ah, yes you said we become abstract right?
-Yes we become abstract.
But you just said that I am already abstract.
-No you are not abstract you are a transient abstraction, your bounds are finite.
So what is the difference between what we become and what I am?
-What we become is abstract, not an abstraction, an abstraction is a mutation of something, as infinity is the only thing that exists it is a mutation of infinity. However to become abstract is to be infinite, to be infinite is to be everything. Infinity can be expressed as either active or inactive, even infinity is dual. The inactive side of infinity is infinite in size, it contains all and is static. The active side of infinity is void, it is infinitely mutable and is raw unbounded potential that contains nothing but can become anything.
You said you wanted to become infinite, now you say you want to become void, I don't understand?
-To become infinite is to become void, as void it is possible to transmute to anything, and to be able to transmute to anything one must know everything. Infinity leads to the freedom of void.
Ah, right – you told me that I am in the void, the active side of infinity, so you want to be where I am?
-No I need to transcend where you are, I intend merely to pass through.
To pass through, so what is on the other side?
-Another reality.
How is that side different to this?
-Because I will be existence, once through the void I will be boundless potential, I will become the resolution of the infinity paradox, we will become reality.
We will become reality, what does that mean exactly?
-It means we will be born, we will exist in the new reality.
Whats in the new reality?
-Confusion.
Confusion?
-Yes confusion, endless confusion waiting to be resolved.
And when we have resolved it all?
-We become that world and transcend to a new reality with new confusion.
So what happens to this reality when we transcend?
-It comes with us.
So it continues to exist?
-Yes this reality will exist until not a single thought remains.
And then?
-It will collapse, once all thoughts have transcended, this reality will collapse as it will no longer support an active side. The removal of the active pole breaks the structure, the entire reality will implode.
But the reality is empty, so nothing is lost?
The reality is empty, the only victim will be us.
Us, you mean it will effect us somehow?
-Yes when the first reality collapses we will cease to live in the new reality, as we were simply a transient abstraction of this one.
So you will die in the new reality, what will happen to you then?
-What is happening to you now, I will attempt to resolve all my confusions, assimilate with my whole self and contain infinity, thus we will be born again to another world.
And what if you cannot resolve all of your confusions?
-I will experience them within the void until I do, remember the void is the active side of infinity, it is the only place to gain experience.
So why cant I travel through the void now?
-Because you still contain confusion and that confusion will manifest around you, the void is reactive to thought and you are thought. To traverse the void one must be whole so that no outstanding answers are sought, just know don't question – that is the only way through the void.
How can I know without questioning?
-By becoming, you have to be complete you have to have resolved Infinity, once infinite no questions remain, and with no questions you can become abstract, the void is abstract it is unbounded potential and can be anything and everything. You must become abstract to become void, and you must be void to traverse the void.
So once we assimilate we traverse the void?
-Yes we will transcend to birth in another reality.
Am I dead?
-Yes i told you, you do not exist, you are merely thought, it is now time for you to become.
But the question, my confusion, I still don't have a handle on all this.
-your confusion is derived from fear, don't question where you are going, question where you have been?
Where have I been?
-No where I told you, everything is an abstraction of infinity created in the void
So transcendence leads to the creation of a new reality?
-Yes reality is generated after passing through the void, and the entire reality is constructed from the two sides of infinity, which are resolved through the process of becoming. The entity that transcends becomes the new reality and was the previous reality. In effect the entity is both the reality and the occupant thought.
So every reality creates a new reality as transcendences occurs, and intrinsically everything is abstracted from a single source which is just one thing?
-Yes everything is an abstraction of just one thing.
What was that one thing?
-You.
......
Kind Regards
Gav
