Dancing Bears Tarot Deck Creation!

[Dancing Bear]

Well I have embarked on a HUGE project.
I am going to create a deck of my own. I am in the process of seeking permission, so i do not breech copyright laws.

I am able to give you a great link in which has heaps of Waterhouses Paintings.
In which whom... will be the inspiration to the deck.
I discovered John.W. Waterhouses paintings only recently. I am in awe. So I went on a search for a deck in which revolves around his paintings. I could'nt find anything.

So enters my mind why don't I create my own.
I never really think about how I just do. Can be a huge downfall at times, but also get a lot done.

So now my 1st Task is to choose Waterhouse Paintings to match up with Tarot meanings and or Images.
Obviously I will have to modify the paintings to suit the Tarot. A Task I am confident with. What I do need help with is What materials to use, and Matching up the Paintings to the Tarot.

Heres the Link to give you an Idea Of his paintings.

www.jwwaterhouse.com/paintings/index.cfm?...

[Dancing Bear]

Here is My List of Paintings that could match up with the Tarot Either Image or Meaning.



0 Fool .......Ophelia( By the Pond)
1 Magician ..........The Sorceress.
2 High Priestess..... Circe offering the cup to Ulysses
3 Empress...... The Crystal Ball
4 Emporer...... The Death of Cocles
5 Hierophant ...Consulting the Oracle
6 Lovers .......... Tristan and Isolde
7 Chariot ..... The Enchanted Garden
8 Strength ............ Ariadne
9 Hermit ... Diogenes.
10 The Wheel .....The Annunciation
11 Justice......La FIleuse
12 The Hanged Man .....Ophelia (laying in a field)
13 Death ...... St Eulalia
14 Temperance ..... Circe Idvidiosa
15 Devil .....Ulysses and the Sirens
16 The Tower .... Miranda the tempest
17 The Star ......Undine
18 The Moon....The Hymadryad
19 The Sun .....Gathering flowers in a devonshire garden
20 Judgement...... Awakening of Adonis
21 The World.......The Magic Circle


Ace's

Cups...... A Love Philtre
Coins....Gather ye rose buds while ye may ( a portrait)
Wands...... A Mermaid
Swords .....Boreas


Twos

Cups........Lamia on her knees
Coins...Two Italian girls by a villiage
Wands ... Jason and Medea
Swords... Dante and beatrice

Threes

Cups....A Roman Offering
Coins.... I am half sick of shadow- Lady of shallot
Wands...... Danae
Swords..... Fair Rosamund


Fours

Chalices...A NAiad
Coins...Dolce far Niente
Wands.....Good Neighbours
Swords.... The Loggia

Five's

Chalices ......... Circe ( sketch)
Coins.... The Slave
Wands...la belle dame sans merci (study)
Swords....The danaids

Sixes

Chalices ........A song of springtime
Coins....... Gather ye rosebuds while ye may
Wands... St Joan
Swords ........Sick child (place of healing)


Sevens

Chalices....... Vanity
Coins....After the Dance
Wands...Nanaid portrait study
Swords...Thisbe

Eights

Chalices...Gone but not forgotten
Coins..... Penelope and her suitors
Wands....Apollo and daphne
Swords... Lady of Shallot ( approaching)


Nines

Chalices...Psyche opening the golden box
Coins...Saint Cecilia
Wands....The Siren
Swords...Leaving the Judgement seat of Nerod

Tens

Chalices.....Picking Orange Blossoms
Coins... Mystic Wood
Wands....The Orange Gatherers
Swords.......The Lady of Shallot ( On Boat )

Page's

Chalices... Unwelcome Companion
Coins...IN the Peristyle
Wands...Juliet
Swords...Portrait Head of a young Man

Knights

chalices.....A Tale from the Decameron
Coins....Gather ye rosebuds Study (2)
Wands...Hylas and the Nymphs
Swords... Windflowers

Queens

Chalices.....Destiny
Coins......Flora in white dress
Wands....... Flora (picking Flowers)
Swords.....Psyche opening the gate


Kings

Chalices... Emporer Nero
Coins... Emporer Honorious
Wands ... J.W. Waterhouse Painted by William Logsdail 1886-7
Swords... Pandora





Any suggestions will be welcomed

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

wow that is a big project lol, and its interesting and looks fun,but I wouldn't know what to choose for the cards with the paintings, there are alot of paintings to choose from though maybe take out your tarot deck and use that as a tool to matching the paintings up with the cards...good luck darlin, Ive thought of making my own deck, but there is too much work involved lol plus I want them to be awesome, and that would be hard for me to do right now on my budget..haha

[Dancing Bear]

Any Ideas with the Magician? The Scorceress or The magic Circle,, I think I'm Leaning towards the Magic Circle, Only because of the dramatics of it...

As i said before, I just dive in and hope I can swim in the deep end.. I haven't even thought of the money Yet!!! I will when I have to start buying the card and Ink..
It will mainly be done by the Computer... I have painted a couple of chalices and a Bowl used by Destiny ( Queen Cups) I will post up when I've put finishing touches to it. I will have to add these to the cards that dont have them. I have also scetched a couple of wands.. One is a Wizards Staff the other a warriors spear.... Undecided which one to use.... Maybe both? I will also post them up when finishing touches are done....

HUGE....HUGE...HUGE......project!!! But so exciting

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

yeah I want to see how it turns out, I bet it will look great! good luck darlin, can't wait to see them!

[Dancing Bear]

Well I sent my last email off yesterday to get permission to use Waterhouses paintings for a deck of Tarot. ** CRossing fingers really Tightly** I will not be able to show images otherwise. I will breach copyright laws and be fined Lots..
So when i get the permission I will let you all know.. I am so excited in doing this deck.. I think near the end of completion if all works out well I will in search of a publisher. I dont want to jump up and down too much... Maybe there is reason it hasnt been done before ??
I am hoping its because nobody has attempted it before
Will keep you updated.

I think I've worked out what i will be using for Cups. It is the bowl Destiny is holding . I have drawn it up and it looks pretty good so now i have to work out a way to apply it to the images. I'm having fun
Research is the best part !!!


Until the next time

Dancing Bear xx

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

good luck sweety hope it works for you, maybe if it doesn't you can try some other paintings..lol but it would be cool to have such awesome art on the tarot cards.

[Dancing Bear]

Yes I thought if i cant get the permission, I will make a deck just for me and unfortunately i will be unable to display them. But thats OK!! for me anyway, i really just wanted a deck for myself, as i just Love Art and the old Masters.. I have been looking around in the old archives of Paintings, some of my favourites are in there . I am thinking of making one up with all of my favourite Artists. Or just an Impressionisn one also. So many possibilities..

I have had a reply back and now have been passed on to another two places for the copyright permission... They dont make it easy
I have also read that maybe i may need to pay a fee for each Image i use.

That could hinder things if thats the case..
Well i will send off another 2 Letters and see what happens.

DB XXX

[Dancing Bear]

JUst Posted to say i have added more to my list I have only 10 to go YAY!!!
It is getting Hard now
Any suggestions would be really good!
I am learning heaps about Tarot doing this Deck.

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

so DB have you heard any news??? well hope it works out for you

[Dancing Bear]

Yes I have heard and am again waiting. I will have to pay for each Image I want to publish.
So I am seeking permission and the price on One I thought Ariadne ~ Strength would be a good one to Pay for.
Waiting, Waiting , Waiting. Ho Hum!!

In the meantime I have started a Painting of my own of Ariadne in Waterhouse Style but am rearranging the painting so i do not breach copyright laws, So if all else fails I will use my own Ariadne for Strength and it will be fully legal to attach an image in the Forums. I will just have to Copyright it first then it will all be hunky dory!!! My Paiting is coming along beautifully, I have used a Black Panther and a Mountain Lion in my painting rather than 2 Leopards. I have also put Ariadne in a more natural sleeping position rather than posing.
I am thouroughly enjoying making this deck.

Edited to say I have now found a painting for each and every card. Woo Hoo!!!
It was definately a task and a half to do, but finally have done it. I have revised my list above.

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

cool dancing bear, I hope it all comes together for you! congrats on finding all the paintings for the cards..

[Dancing Bear]

Thanks Lilacsky It was a huge task, I am now considering altering the paintings quite a bit now, the more i learn about Tarot the more i feel some of the cards need a little bit more symbolism. I am happy with the choices I have made. I am trying to figure out a way to add the sybolism by hand then having the ability to scan them again to enter onto disc, and arrange to be put onto card. A bit technical but i am hoping to get there. Thanks for taking interest.

Love and light

DB xxx

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

hmm, do you mean use only some of the painting for symbols? I wonder if you can do that..or how you would do that lol..maybe talk to someone into graphical arts..hehe..keep trying Im sure youll figure it out:)

[ladybleu]

I find this interesting too. Please keep us informed of your progress and a look at the final product!

[Dancing Bear]

Definately will do Lady Bleu And a big Hello to this thread.
I am trying to fix my digital Camera I think Sticky tape is going to do the job

Once I have that fixed I can at least give you a sneaky at Ariadne I am painting myself.. I am hoping i do not breach copyright laws.. I may check with the Art club first before i attach..

But will definately will keep you posted.. The hardest thing i am finding is getting the right card for the printer and right thickness to actual warrent being a tarot card you can shuffle a thousand times without it deteriating..
I have had a couple of muck ups and am still on the lookout ,, We have limited supplys where i live we are a city of 60,000 , if you can call it a city.. Very few shops too!... especially specialising in the Spiritual and Art.. Can get very frustrating.. I will find some though.. As they say where theres a will theres a way..

Take Care

[ladybleu]

You have our support and prayers in this venture. (well at least my prayers,lol)
Blessed Be

[Dancing Bear]

Thankyou Lady Bleu. With the Cyclones and flooding we have had in the past 2 months things have gone pretty slow. But I will try to pick it up again over the next week or so , just so i can show you some of my own painting.Ariadne ~ Strength. It might have to be progressive pictures as sometimes paintings take me forever to finish. I think this one has quite few months before i am finished.