OBE to lucid dream...

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

I just put this in my journal as well..

Today I decided to try something and it worked..
I took a nap a little bit ago but as I rested on the couch I said to my self softly " I Am aware, I am lucid" over and over, before I knew I was laying in my body..listening to my fan noise, which sounded strange, so I knew I had entered the hynogogic state.but something seemed not right so I shook my body..to try to wake up, than I thought"Well I can leave If I want to" but I didn't my awareness shifted to a lucid dream..heres the interesting part..I was outside of where I live now, but in a differant time, in fact this house was on a huge piece of land with hardly any houses, like today it has tons..however there were people around, but not real ones..
I knew I had created them and the scenery to launch an obe..anyway I walked into an open field and the sky was black, I think it was getting read to storm, but It was deep black like night, I said "im gonna fly" "I am dreaming"and as I stood there I witnessed the craziest thing, another body stretched out from mine but it was silverish..and it snapped back in my body as I lifted off the ground, I went full force into the night sky..and listen to this, this little ball of light was up there floating around, and I said "keep me warm" to it as I approached it and it acted as a person it just flown around me..but it didn't of course say anything it just moved kind of with me..how strange..and soon I was back in reality..
???I just wanted to take note of this, since it was highly simple to achieve..I feel I could have done anything, however did does not count as an obe..even though I was there and but not willing, I even thought "no" as I was ready to launch...lol its just strange how most of the time I turn away obe's for lucid dream, I wonder why..?? .and perhaps someone has experienced these balls of light??

[nani]

wow I just can say, anyway why you do it like this. sounds exciting. and the little lightballs - I often have heard people speaking about. most of them consider it a kind of guide.
In fact I dont know if there is such a big difference in between Obe and lucid dream, or I didnt understand it untill now. What counts for me is the free will to decide anything you want, and thats what you`re doing.
How did you feel afterwards?
Could you enjoy it? Or did you rather think about why you decided like this?
For me this sounds adventurous, cool.
all the best
nani

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

yeah Nani I heard the same about the balls of light..I suppose it could have been a guide, I wonder if it is ever our consciousness that we are seeing..
yeah I don't think there is much differance between astral and ld''s but obe's are much differant for me anyway, but I always know which is which..
yeah it was pretty cool nani, I felt wonderful and free, and powerful all in one!!hehe and I needed that, so I was happy when I woke up! oh and of course I analyzed it after wards too, I often do after I experience something like that..

[Potential]

The vibrations
Yoga of the Psychic Heat(tummo)is the preliminary applications for attaining the illusory body(the astral body). It involves cerebral breathing, exercises, and visualizations.
home.gwi.net/~erichard/cerebr.htm

Dreaming is uncontrolled thoughts manifesting.
Visualization is controlled thought manifestation.

The only way to see something behind closed eyelids, but not see external images, is by seeing internal images. As the mind and its 5 consciousnesses(the 5 sense organ consciousnesses,sight, smell, taste, touch, and hearing)turn inward to the visual imaging center, dream-land, a pulling sensation will be felt, and it will raise thru the body and connect at any of the 7 chakras, as it enters into chakras various experiences will be experienced.(The book can explain more than I am willing to type.)

If one normally just falls asleep, one will not notice this change.
However a concentrated mind, especially one that does visualization, the body will thru the force of meditation cause the neccessary conditions(mentioned above) to arise in order to attain dream scenarios.

A book, Tibetan Yoga and Secret Doctrines, on the Yoga of the Psychic Heat, Applied practice #2, the burning and dropping process(an internal process of the subtle nature).Isbn# 0195133145 .

(168)With a crackling sound, the flame quickly moveth downward; and then, with increased burning force, it reacheth the navel nerve center(manipura chakra).

(174)By its permeating the navel nerve center, one experienceth "Wonderful Bliss", and a thrilling, or vibratory sensation, thru out the body, and realizeth the State of the Great Voidness.

(177)And the Clear Light of the All-Voidness being realized, one becometh immersed in a condition of consciousness unaffected by all worldly(or external) stimuli.

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

what does this mean potential?? I think i get the just of it...

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

Pontential????help???lol