uriella
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Not many things indifferently, but one thing supremely.
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Post by uriella on Aug 17, 2005 10:12:21 GMT -5
Okay, This is not usually my style. I am good at responding to other people's posts on forums, but I don't usually start them because I'm not good at revealing my inner self to people. But I am having a recurring dream theme which I am having some difficulty deciding upon its meaning.
The dreams are about a baby. Sometimes the baby is mine and I am aware in the dream that this baby is my fifth (I have four children aged 10 to 17 already). Sometimes the baby is someone else's but for one reason or another I am its main caregiver along with the mother.
A little background now. Since my first child was born I have been on a personal development path. Sometimes the development is motoring along quickly, sometimes gently and slowly. In recent years the development has taken on a strong psychic and spiritual theme and very recently I took a major step which will change my future completely.
Mostly I tend to believe that the dreams represent a rebirth of myself into my new life path, and that the baby is actually me. Sometimes, however, I get a strong feeling that the baby is an actual baby I have had or will have. (I had a miscarriage about three years ago now and wonder if the baby is that baby.) The thing is that the major step I took was to tell my (soon to be ex) husband that once our two eldest are through their HSC years I will be leaving. We are effectively separated although we are still living in the same house. Even before this our marital relationship was over and we have slept separately for at least two years. I have no other relationship on the cards and am heading into the menopausal years.
Could the dreams be a longing for my soon to be lost fertility? Could they be about my own rebirth? Or could they be the baby I miscarried talking to me?
What do others think about this?
Love and Light, Uriella
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Post by Gav on Aug 18, 2005 6:10:37 GMT -5
Hi Uriella,
As with any dream we have several ways of interpreting its contents, one of the most interesting things I find about this kind of interpretation is that it can be correct on multiple levels, in that several messages can be portrayed by the dream in unison whilst all retaining feasibility.
You mention that sometimes you are aware of this baby being your fifth, whilst at other times you are more of the primary care giver or guardian. I would suggest that these be treated as two separate entities, one connected to you through birth or ownership, and the later connected to you through responsibility.
With concern to the dream in which the baby is clearly perceived as yours, further than that perceived as your 5th, so it gains a clear place - or order within the material world – this sounds like a premonition.
women often dream of babies as a prelude to conception and having four children already you must be very in tune with your maternal instincts. In that view this baby could represent a future child (or want of) and I would most certainly agree with your own analysis that this could further be thought of as a yearning for fertility. so in compensatory terms a premonition of menopause.
The second perception of the baby is one of responsibility, this is different, much less of a premonition and very valid as a symbol. We have to consider what the baby may represent.
A baby is congruent with innocence of the self, and a need to be loved. It does sound like you are living in an awkward, perhaps strained situation – strapped to a non-loving parental partnership maintained out of a concept of responsibility to your children. In this aspect we can deduce that you have a need to be loved, this is more likely than not something well submerged in your psyche, hidden from oneself but still presenting itself as subconscious symbolism on the verge of breaking through to your waking (or ego) consciousness.
A second consideration exists for the baby and thats it's a representation of something new and spiritual, the young baby is immaculate and pure, it is innocent to the world and holds no ignorance as to be ignorant opinion must be formed, it is created by the amalgamation of male and female principles and given life (consciousness) through divine magic., the alchemy of the genome.
In this sense the baby nicely represents the Fool tarot card. That would be the fool as 0 or the first card in the major Arcana as adjusted in decks such as Thoth and Rider Waite. In the Fool card we have the implication of a strong growing spiritual idea that transcends materialism – The ideal of a new beginning, a new chapter in life so to speak – and also an indication of guidance along a path.
The fact that you are responsible for the baby means that this is your path, you are on the verge of a new understanding, a clear thought that may change the way you view everything, a new deeper, spiritual path.
A baby relates well as a connection to the other side and this period in your life may well be filled with paranormal activity as we usually find much syncronicity between the contents of our dreams and material existence.
A psychic awakening or the onset of a period of guidance within your life are likely.
A symbol is context sensitive and instills in the observer a reflection of their own perception, in as much that we are free to interpret symbols ourselves, subjectively without any regard for the general objective understanding of it. That is the beauty of symbols, privacy of understanding.
For that reason what ever your own thoughts on this dream tell you are paramount, as these are your symbols, but I hope I presented you with some insight.
Kind Regards Gav
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Post by Anise on Aug 18, 2005 11:17:43 GMT -5
Wow that was pretty informative. It's interesting you mentioned women can dream of "predicting" a pregnancy. Each time my brother's wife got pregnant I dreamt it months before they even concieved. I never told them thought, because I didn't want to alter fate, so to speak.
Now this interpretation that involves babies does it have the same effect as if it were a kitten? I have been dreaming about a kitten for a while now. Sometimes I know it is mine and other times I feel as if were my mother-in-laws (we live with her at the moment). When I said something to my mother-in-law about it she looked kinda shocked and said that was weird because she has been thinking of getting a cat/kitten.
Uriella, Gav mentioned that you may be dreaming of this baby as a result of you longing to feel loved or needed maybe. I understand you and your soon to be ex-husband are living together as separates, are you interesting in dating at all? I don't want to get too personal but perhaps going out and getting attention from someone and getting pampered might fill that void for you. You don't have to reply to this, it's just something I thought you might want to think about.
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uriella
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Post by uriella on Aug 19, 2005 1:19:58 GMT -5
Thank-you guys. Gav, you have given me something further to think about and definitely further insight into my dreams. I had not thought of the need to be loved aspect, though this is something which I feel acutely after years of an emotionally loveless relationship. And, of course, babies do usually give unconditional love to their main caregiver. Thank-you. Anise, yes I would one day love to find the right person for me, because even after all these years, I still believe in there being a soul mate for every one of us. At the moment it is not feasible as I am the main (usually only) carer for my children. My husband is busy conducting his love/sex and social life (as he has been for some time) more openly now, and my 13 year old son in particular, is very upset about it. While I don't believe I should always put my children before my own well-being, I don't feel it is too much to ask that I abstain from starting anything before we are no longer sharing the same house. Aside from anything else, I would never be able to find the time at the moment. However, I might be able to do something about pampering myself more even though I won't be able to have another do it for me for a while. Thank-you for that thought. Love and Light, Uriella
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