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Post by existenceisadream on Mar 1, 2007 2:21:46 GMT -5
This morning I woke after 6 hours of sleep and felt completely rested (and could had easily got up to start my day) and yet I had another 3 hours till I would normally wake so I lied in bed for over an hour till I fell back to sleep. The next two hours of sleep were mostly lucid and high level awareness dreams. Then I wake at the time I have to get up and I'm very tired and wish I could sleep more hours.
So this got me to thinking. Maybe I was so well rested after the 6 hours because my body got the deep sleep it needed and now was ready for the waking day. By going back to sleep I then used some of the energy that would had been used through out the day for dreaming instead. Plus most of this dreaming was lucid so I feel that this requires even more energy for sustaining this level of awareness.
I wander if the reason why people are so tired after sleeping for many hours is because instead of your body getting more rest, you're actually using this energy for the longer and longer REM sessions (which means longer dreams) thus making you feel more tired than if you'd had just got out of bed after 6 hours?
Seems pretty legit to me. What do you guys think?
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Post by crazycat on Mar 1, 2007 2:30:03 GMT -5
I know what you mean. When I get more that 6 or 7 hours, I am sluggest all day from it. I think some people just require more sleep than others.
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Post by mandala on Mar 1, 2007 19:27:23 GMT -5
I require seven to eight hours to feel my best. I find that those nights where I'm restless and can't sleep, those are the nights when I have the most vivid dreams, and yes, sometimes lucid. I tend to dream more, but deep sleep much less. I'm groggy the next day.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Mar 2, 2007 19:25:19 GMT -5
Most definatley more energy is needed for lucid dreaming, when i lucid i feel zapped of my energy at times, depends on the intensity.. its like a psychic zap for me!!
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Post by existenceisadream on Mar 3, 2007 3:52:16 GMT -5
I'm think you guys understand what I'm saying but just to rephrase it a little differently. For me I'll wake up after so many hours (normally 6 for me) and I will just be wide awake and if I would just wake up at this time I feel I've gotten the perfect rest. But I like to get 8-9 hours of sleep (mainly because these last few hours are typically mostly lucid and high level awareness dreaming). And when I do go back to sleep for 1-3 hours longer I always wake feeling way more tired than if I'd had just gotten up when I naturally woke up. So this led me to think that since your REM cycles are at the longest after 6 hours of sleep in which most of your sleep is in dreaming mode, that this type of sleep drains one of energy instead of promotes energy for the waking day. The question whether lucid dreaming takes up more energy for me is in question though. Sometimes I feel it does and sometimes I feel it doesn't. When I have really good lucid sessions I think I'm so happy that I was able to be lucid for so long and achieve some really good things, that it leaves me feeling really good all day like euphoria sort of. Plus I think of 'lucidity' not just in sleeping mode but while in waking life as well. It seems that to be lucid in waking life does take more energy than going about the day in robotic mode. To maintain very high levels of awareness through out the day seems to spend much energy. Again though hard to tell sometimes. Now I'm rambling...  |
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Post by Dancing Bear on Mar 3, 2007 17:01:30 GMT -5
I have read once the body techniquely needs 5 hours sleep.. the rest after is a waste of time.. I dunno soemtimes i have less than 5 hours at times and i still feel ick! LOL! I dont know why some lucids take up more energy than some, Maybe its the mental exhaustion,( i think therfore i am) sort of thing , idont souly beleive inthat statement but i foudn appropriate here, if metally we are exhausted from a bad sleep, or busy Lucid our body follows our mind set...??Just a guess here  I lucid often, and find the content of the lucid matters.. Being alert through the day while awake i found once it is experienced often enough and long enough the tiredness, or the deflated feeling goes or is reduced.. I am high alert most of the time these days, it addictive, because when i am zapped, and unable to function in that mode i find its like i am unable to function as me , which is really frustrating.. its like having my wings cut off, and then some LOL! I have found over time the more energy levels you use it becomes easier, and no longer become zapped.. I still do become zapped, and the only thing that helps with it is sleep.. so i make sure i have an early one every now and then to recharge the batteries..this occurs at least once a week or fortnight... on an average i have 5-6 hours sleep a day, and function quite well ( debatable to some LOL ) DB xxx |
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Post by michael on Mar 18, 2007 1:36:02 GMT -5
The brain has it's own muscle work out by generating the dream landscapes threw REM and more. I will have to agree with this thread. |
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Post by daphne on Mar 18, 2007 3:20:20 GMT -5
Plus I think of 'lucidity' not just in sleeping mode but while in waking life as well. It seems that to be lucid in waking life does take more energy than going about the day in robotic mode. To maintain very high levels of awareness through out the day seems to spend much energy. Again though hard to tell sometimes. Now I'm rambling... Hence the whole practice centered around "impeccability" - the reclaimation and conservation of personal power (energy)  |
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