Energy loss with sex?

[blake]

A lot of people think that it is good to refrain from sex during periods that you are trying to gain energy. It is thought by some that qi is lost through it and others think it is just dispersed. I am not sure what my conclusions are on this. I think it does affect energy and maybe even causes loss, but it also seems to sometimes make my chakras slightly easier to activate.

Qi masters such as Rich Mooney and Paul Dong say that it is best to refrain from sex in the hours before and after energy practice.

I have heard that sex can make it easier to leave your body. i have thought this on occasion but I don't think it matters that much. What does anyone else think?

[~¤LilacSky¤~]

I think it depends on the person, some people loose energy with sex and some gain it, so if you loose it, be sure to have the sex after you have tried to accomplish your energy raising methods, lol

or perhaps began training your body that sex gives off energy instead of taking it, maybe that would help out.

[mactombs]

My feeling on this is that it depends on who you are with. I think sex is an energy exchange from a less physical standpoint, but to some extent on the physical as well.

As far as it depending on who you are with, that's just an idea, but not something I can substantiate very well. With personal experience, however, so far I've only ever experienced energy gain.

[Miana]

I really think that energy is created during sex. the sex drive in itself is an energy of creation. The physical act of having sex is one of spiritual and physical nature, so both are enhanced. Just like the runners high, there is a high with achieving sexual bliss with in turn enhances energy work as well as creation and manifestation.

Miana

[blake]

I really think that energy is created during sex. the sex drive in itself is an energy of creation.

Yeah, I'll go along with that. There is definitely a connection... I have found that energy raising, or experiencing massive energy sensations like at the edge of an OBE can create a greater sex drive, even to the point of total arousal. I guess I also think that it works the other way too, and that the sex drive contributes to energy.

[Miana]

Yesserie!!
One begats the other! Energy is energy. It is NEVER lost but only exchanged, one for another. Kind of like a barter system and it is ALL good!!

I have also found that OBE causes that feeling before and after sexual arousal and climax! Kind of make the trip that much more pleasurable! (Either way!)

Accept,, well,, it might not be beneficial to do an astral projection during an intimate physical encounter
I mean , really, dont we desire to be present in the "now" moment for that??

Miana

[blake]

I guess whether or not energy is lost or exchanged depends on whether or not you have a partmer... maybe energy just disperses though, I guess i can't really tell.

I think emotions definitly tie into the picture as well. Maybe it is all just chakra related, like the sex and base chakra to the sex drive and the solar plexus and heart to the emotions. I have been reading (re-reading) Monore's first book lately, and I find it interesting how energy-training-related some things he said were... even though he did not train with energy, his experiences are still examples of how the chakras and stuff relate. I wonder if he knew anything at all about chakras and energy when he mentioned some things, or if he put them in the book for no big reason and didn't realize the significance of what he was saying. Before his first experience for example he said he had a huge cramp in the solar plexus (chakra), and he also says somewhere in there something like "there seems to be a direct link between this force that lets us leave the body and the sex-drive". I haven't gotten to that part again, I just remember it from before. I am noticing a lot of things reading it for the second time that I really didn't think much of before, because the first time I read it, I was not experienced. It was after my first 3 experiences 2 years ago.

I think that is the best book on the subject.

[Miana]

Wow,, that book sounds real interesting. I dont think I have read it... (surprise to me! )
What is it called??? I am always doing new research of some kind or another. I do know that if you study quantum physics you find that energy is never lost. We can expend it through our physical body, but it is actually being transfered to another form. Sometimes we think we lost energy because our body is tired. It has left our body and has gone somewhere else.
Where exactly , I dont know?? Maybe the quantum field?? The etheric field?? Any ideas??
Miana

[blake]

I think I remember hearing something about what you said about quantum physics. I think what I heard was that energy is never destroyed. I guess it could be lost though. In my last post I meant to say that I think it can be lost with emotions... but yeah, I guess I don't know where it goes.

I'm really surprised that you haven't heard of Robert A. Monroe. His first (and best) book is called "Journeys Out of the Body". On the front cover it says "the classic work on out-of-body experiences. I really think it is. Although I like Sylvan Muldoon's "The Projection of the Astral Body" from 1929 a whole lot too. I think most other books I've read have been pretty sucky. I like Castaneda's "The Art of Dreaming" a lot, but it borders on being on another topic.

[Miana]

HUMMMM???
Would be kind of interesting to find out just where sexual energy goes once it is expelled. (the best word I can come up with!! ))

No better research then real experience.. but I also love to read books of others experiences! Thanks for mentioning this one and when I get through the piles of ones i have in line I might just give it a good read!!

Miana
love in the light

[Lori]

For awhile I was having sexual energy or sensations while I was OBE'ing and, although very pleasant, it really became a distraction and would end my OBE's prematurely. I put this in another post about moving energy. But, during one of my pre-exit sensations I started to feel that sexual energy beginning to build in my root chakra and I thought to my self... "ok, not this time... I'm going to change this energy flow"... and I did change the flow of that energy to go upward and out through my crown chakra. It worked and I had a incredible OBE experience. Since then I have found that if I can control this root chakra flow my OBE will last longer anyway.

Ha!... and then again maybe I need to open up that root chakra a little more??

[Miana]

Lori,
Sounds like you were begining to experience what is refered to as "cosmic orgasm". I had these experiences kind up jump on me , (pardon the "visual") while i was attempting OBE. I found that I CAN control it if I so desire, but to allow it to just happen opens up the chakra system even more and will ultimately cause them to balance. It is the release of "pent" up sexual tension sitting in the 2nd Chakra...

You might desire to consider to allow it and see what happens??

Miana

[Lori]

Miana, I do open up to it often. It's just that sometimes I want the OBE experience to go a different way or last longer and for awhile I felt they were ending my OBE's early. Anyway, I understand what you are saying about the chakra energy and opening it up - thanks for the information.

[Holly]

I only had a few OBE's but my best two were both after sex!!

Maybe there is a link?

I know that personally, after sex, my physical body feels tired but I feel like something inside is energized and charged somehow. Maybe that is something to do with it?

Love Hol.

[blake]

Yeah I think it does Holly. I just wrote something about that over in the lounge, under Gav's "absence" post. Take a look if you like. I'd cut and paste it but it takes my computer a while to get through these pages.

You know what... come to think of it I didn't actually say that much about that specifically, but I said some related stuff (just what I think) about the relation between OBEs, and energy and sexual activity too.

[Neshumah]

I have a suggestion of a good book to read in my opinion: "The New Art of Sexual Ecstasy" by Margot Anand. It helped a lot and i have a more open opinion about Sex. Now i choose my partners more carefully and with a complete different vision because i know what i'm looking for in a higher stage. She says:

"The sensory deprivation experiment also confirmed my intuitive understanding that relaxation was an essential ingredient for the experience of ecstasy. I also understood, however, that relaxation by itself was not enough to trigger an ecsatsy response. I saw that a special context was required in which the body was flooded with energy through intense events involving profound emotions and dynamic action that naturally open the way to deep relaxation.
This context can be provided through many different approaches, from ancient Tantric meditations to modern methods of working with the body. Through years of study and experimentation, I sought to creat the best approach for generating ecstatic states and integrating them into the sexual experience. I arrived at a three-step process: Generating the Streaming Reflex, Awakening the Ecstatic Response, and Riding the Wave of Bliss."

"Sex is first of all a matter of energy. The more energy you have, the more blissful you can be, and the better sex becomes. In step one you learn to mobilize your energy and express it more fully until you experience orgasm as an "energy event" that can be learned and duplicated independent of the sexual context. In this process you experience the essential part of orgasm, which I call the streaming reflex.
As you experience the streaming reflex, you learn to welcome various kinds of vibrations and let them happen until they are felt as highly pleasurable. The result is a sense of being cleansed and relaxed. Once you have learned how to experience orgasm as an energy event outside the sexual context, you feel empowered to take responsibility for your own well-being in sex. You know that the true source of your pleasure lies not in your partner but within yourself."