Silver MoonWolf
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Post by Silver MoonWolf on Jul 25, 2006 9:49:48 GMT -5
I have recently just started trying to meditate seriously and earlier this morning I was able to visualize the air coming in through my nose and swirling down and through my body and collecting negative energy and then I would blow it out and it visualized to me as if I was blowing out ash from my mouth. I meditated for around 20 minutes and while I fell into the pre sleep state and was very relaxed I really didn't have any visions which I kind of expected from an alpha state.
I was wondering are visions something that will come with practice and they should happen with most meditations or are visions rare and something profound that should be reflected upon and studied for long periods of time. I was just wondering what kind of experiences others have had regarding visions in meditation.
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Post by michael on Jul 26, 2006 19:20:59 GMT -5
If you want visions sit cross legged and meditate. When you start to fall asleep from good meditation your head will go down and it will keep you awake because of this position. This will make you half asleep and half awake, where you will experience visions garanteed.
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Post by Lena on Jul 26, 2006 19:47:21 GMT -5
I just wanted to mention that I rarely get visions, but that doesn't mean I'm not receiving any information. First, sometimes you receive information on unconscious level, and I think this is oftentimes the case with meditation. You might not neccessarily get any insight while in meditation, but during the day things will come easier to you. Second, there are different ways to receive psychic information: through seeing (clairvoyance), hearing (clairaudience), feeling (clairsentience), or thinking (claircognizance). People who are in their head a lot, like I am, usually receive their info through claircognizance, meaning you will just have ideas in your head. It can be also a combination of those. Good practice for clairvoyance is looking at an object, then closing your eyes, and remembering all the details, sort of recreating it in your mind. That is in no way to say you won't get visions!!! I'm writing this post mostly so that if your results are small at first, you will continue feeling encouraged. And there is something to be said about going into it with a positive intention, but without expecting anything specific.  |
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jul 26, 2006 22:31:08 GMT -5
Hi Silver Moon Wolf.
I have always had visions, they may not always be prfound prophetic, but visions non the less. I think being artistic has helped.. I do not need to meditate to receive them. I Visualise quite a bit..
I dont know whether you can relate to this but i will give it a go anyway.. Just say you have a large suitcase to fit into the trunk, and you do not know whether it will fit... Now I know many many people who will get the tape measure out and there are others that can visualise the size of the trunk and pair the size up with the suitcase and will be able to let you know whether it would fit... This is visualisation.. Now if you can do this you can see your visions.. We see things in our minds eye for a reason, whether it be another great Painting, sheet of music or a prophetic insight.. We all recieve visions to some extent it is whether you can actually see them..Some people see it as just knowing. Others see the vision. Lena mentioned an excercise for memory and recreating it visually this is fantastic way to start..
When I do readings for people I see visions, they mean nothing to me and i do not even try to interpret, It is the client that puts it all together. Only because a train means something different to me, compared to my client. Unless the message is unmistakably clear. I see Spirit in Vision form and they can talk to me this way.( I am starting see them in form lately ) woo hoo! . When i remote view I see it in vision form also.. It is hard sometimes to determine what i see especially when I am trying to harness the ability to Receive vision at My Will.. Rather than wait for it to happen.. Other times it is crystal clear.. Like anyone we have our days of feeling great and others we are off!
When I meditate I visualise but i do not allow visions ( as in I ask for none to come through) as meditation is my private space and it is a time of calming and clearing..Only because I recieve Visions at any time of day nearly everyday. Visions I believe are messages from the Spirit Plane. whether they are earth moving or not it does not matter they are a gift to be cherished..I just have boundries and meditation is a time for ME!!
Luck to you in your practicing with your visions.. I think Visualisation is the first step.
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Silver MoonWolf
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Post by Silver MoonWolf on Jul 30, 2006 9:45:53 GMT -5
Thanks everyone, I kinda had the line of thought that if I wasn't seeing any visions that it simply meant that nothing in the spirit world had a message for me at the time. I am simply trying to take meditation right now as a way to clear my mind and to get rid of the negative energy that may have been building up and figure that if while I am in that state if I receive a vision then it was meant to be. Kind of like a spiritual answering machine, sometimes you have messages and sometimes you don't, I just hope when I check my spiritual answering machine I don't have anyone asking me if I would like a good rate on a home loan ;D
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jul 30, 2006 17:11:05 GMT -5
I doubt that would ever happen Silver Moon Wolf LOL!! Ive been praying for the same thing.. Nothing yet!
The rates over here are dismall too!
It use to be cheaper to Buy a home than to Rent.. Now it is at least $150. Cheaper a week to Rent.. And stupidly enough nearly impossible for the average family to buy their own home. You would be mad to try buying at the moment Here!..
As far as Visions are concerned. Messages can come in all sorts of forms.. One major way is your dreams.. I have had many many messages from my guides and deceased ancestors in my dreams, and continue to have them.. Visions can also come at any time. Just ask for them while you are meditating.. Ask your guide. It may not happen straight away, You will be put through an initiation at first it will be subtle at first you may not notice but you will begin to eventually because it becomes not so subtle LOL!! Trust is the Major component when dealing with Guides and your Visions, You must Trust Yourself and Guides.. With what you recieve.. Do not annalyse it just write it down as is.. Annalyse later...
Good luck with it all Silver Moon Wolf..
DB XXXX
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Post by osiris on Jul 30, 2006 18:54:12 GMT -5
Great stuff. We all work a bit differant man. I have visions and differant answers (i believe are not really answers now but more on that in a minute) given to me during or after gazing. It is a form of meditation and i never try to ask i just let the answers (from the emmisary) flow and take it in. Usually it is things i have had questions about through the day or week anyway. For meditation i feel you are doing it just right. No expectations just use it to cleanse yourself both physically and mentally. The best way to achieve is to not try...lol i know its silly but its true. The more you open up your mind by curbing the negative and the nonsense (all thought actually). The more you open your crown to recieve the things that you want to know. Now to answer the above. After reading more Castaneda i believe that the visions or answers you recieve are only what you already know. Maybe not conciously or SOMETIMES not even this lifetimes information. How i look at it is all this info i have taken in is just being organized for me to interpret easier. Again as castaneda said. We living the way we have need things to be said again and again but from a differant approach each and every time until finally bling the light turns on. By living the way we have i mean that from school and from this life we are blinded by so much and need just a good push to open up to infinity and all its possible answers. Now i will stress one thing learn many differant meditation techniques. Once the subconcious begins to prepare for what you have in store (meditation) it becomes less affective. throw it the curve ball now and again by switching up style or technique. I meditate and change very often with things i learn from here and reading. Or sometimes just bounce back to what i learned years ago in martial training.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jul 30, 2006 20:52:02 GMT -5
Excellent stuff Osiris!
yeh we are all different!!
I think it says go with the flow and find a way that suites you!
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Silver MoonWolf
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Post by Silver MoonWolf on Jul 31, 2006 13:42:49 GMT -5
I do like the idea of trying many different meditation methods to switch things up occasionally. One time with a candle, one time maybe outside at a park or something, maybe the next time meditate with some oreos or something  |
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Post by Lena on Jul 31, 2006 14:47:50 GMT -5
...maybe the next time meditate with some oreos or something Yes, to really test your willpower!! ;D |
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Post by osiris on Jul 31, 2006 15:56:46 GMT -5
You know oreos are evil....careful adding them to a glass of milk has an explosive affect on you belly....lol
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Post by michael on Jul 31, 2006 16:51:09 GMT -5
Hi Silver Moon Wolf. I have always had visions, they may not always be prfound prophetic, but visions non the less. I think being artistic has helped.. I do not need to meditate to receive them. I Visualise quite a bit.. I dont know whether you can relate to this but i will give it a go anyway.. Just say you have a large suitcase to fit into the trunk, and you do not know whether it will fit... Now I know many many people who will get the tape measure out and there are others that can visualise the size of the trunk and pair the size up with the suitcase and will be able to let you know whether it would fit... This is visualisation.. Now if you can do this you can see your visions.. We see things in our minds eye for a reason, whether it be another great Painting, sheet of music or a prophetic insight.. We all recieve visions to some extent it is whether you can actually see them..Some people see it as just knowing. Others see the vision. Lena mentioned an excercise for memory and recreating it visually this is fantastic way to start.. When I do readings for people I see visions, they mean nothing to me and i do not even try to interpret, It is the client that puts it all together. Only because a train means something different to me, compared to my client. Unless the message is unmistakably clear. I see Spirit in Vision form and they can talk to me this way.( I am starting see them in form lately ) woo hoo! . When i remote view I see it in vision form also.. It is hard sometimes to determine what i see especially when I am trying to harness the ability to Receive vision at My Will.. Rather than wait for it to happen.. Other times it is crystal clear.. Like anyone we have our days of feeling great and others we are off! When I meditate I visualise but i do not allow visions ( as in I ask for none to come through) as meditation is my private space and it is a time of calming and clearing..Only because I recieve Visions at any time of day nearly everyday. Visions I believe are messages from the Spirit Plane. whether they are earth moving or not it does not matter they are a gift to be cherished..I just have boundries and meditation is a time for ME!! Luck to you in your practicing with your visions.. I think Visualisation is the first step. Hi how long have you been practicing to get visions? Your 3rd eye must be open. |
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jul 31, 2006 17:33:15 GMT -5
I have been Naturally been getting visions majority of my life.. It is only in the last 2 years I have seriously given it any thought to refine and harness, I have been doing remote viewing which has help immensley to define imagination and vision( i thought maybe i would start up an excercise in OW at some stage). I found Intuitive reading really helps open up also, meditation of course, in which i do not have much time for.And last but not least Tarot and oracle reading has also helped a lot!
It truly opened many years ago, and beleive me it is not always a good thing because once opened, it is hard to shut off .. I have become a recluse to some extent, Because now i pick up on anything and everyone around me.. Nature is one thing that really helps ground me and also allows my Visions and thoughts to flow freely and merge harmoniously without interuption. It is another form of meditation for me..
I am a Medium in training and at the moment have hit a block, I have been ill for at least a month now and have had a heavy load... I am hoping to be back on track in a couple of weeks and back into seeing spirit, and receiving visions again..
DB xxxxx
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Post by michael on Jul 31, 2006 21:00:10 GMT -5
Awesome, would you be able to do me a reading online?  |
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jul 31, 2006 22:36:40 GMT -5
I will do one for your b'day next week.. I will post it up in the request a reading thread in Gypsy's Tavern..
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Post by michael on Aug 1, 2006 1:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by Blake on Apr 9, 2007 23:11:28 GMT -5
Hey Silver Moonwolf. I don't think that that breathing thing you mentioned on the top of this thread will bring about visions. Visions are directly related to energy in your upper dantian or brow-chakra. Meditation will certainly bring them about as long as it's a meditation that can raise enough energy for the energy to reach that area. When you activate that area the relationship will be clear. After it's done, when you close your eyes you'll see scenes act out in your head. They will probably not be real or psychic but there will definitely be scenes to watch and pictures to see.
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Post by nani on Apr 10, 2007 4:27:17 GMT -5
just a hello to Blake, great to seeya again. as I`ve become a buddhist in the meanwhile.. haha.. how "to become" something lol.. we ARE anyways All since ever, right. So but anyways, my meditation has changed, its more chanting specific mantras, and I even had to make a pause already, cause it felt to have strong effects on me spiritually but on my real-life also. I`ll start again soon cause like this tibetan meditations, but just now wanted to mention that one more time I found out that I really have to be attentive and sensitive to the life-states Im in, and be flexible in use of methods. lovejoy
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Post by osiris on Apr 10, 2007 19:02:42 GMT -5
Tibetan shamanic breathing will definatly affect visuals. If anything do tho the lack of oxygen...lol
Really the visuals seem to come when you prepare. Before meditation make sure your "specific" intent is set. Than dont try while you meditate. Just let it come. If you get no visuals maybe you just were not meant to right now.
If you really have a goal of visuals use a crystal to show you.
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Post by Blake on Apr 11, 2007 2:40:43 GMT -5
That sounds really cool that you've become a Buddhist Nani. It's nice to hear that you've found some good meditations through that. Good to hear : )
In 2 weeks I leave for Thailand, and/or Cambodia and/or Laos for six weeks. I'll be travelling by myself and I've never left the US before so I'm a little nervous, but it should be interesting. It will be interesting to see a society influenced by eastern religions rather than Christianity.
I have been concentrating on other things besides meditation lately. Mainly weightlifting. About 8 years ago I set a goal in weightlifting that I think I can finally achieve this summer. I never thought it'd take this long... but I set the goal before I realized that I didn't have any talent : ) For a while ther I also began to think I'd never be able to do it... and that's kinda why I want to do it : )
I'll return to meditation after this summer when I'm finished.
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