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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 9:34:08 GMT -5
CRYSTAL CLEANSING, AND RECHARGING Stones collect energies, and so must be often cleansed. Simply place your stones, with the intent to cleanse, in salt water, sea water, or, running water, such as a river. Certain stones have the ability to cleanse other stones, such as Carnelian or Clear Quartz, and so by placing them in a bag with other stones will constantly cleanse them, and you will never need to use water. However, these crystals, after long use, will need cleansing themselves. Self cleansing stones include: Citrine, Kyanite, and Azeztulite.
RECHARGING CRYSTALS Simply place your stones in the sunlight for a few hours, provided they are non-fading stones, or the moonlight.
SMUDGING CRYSTALS Smudging your crystals will cleanse your crystals, but recharging is still necesary. Pass them through the smoke of slow burning, cleansing herb(s) (see herbs thread for details).
WHITE LIGHT Or, you can do a meditation, surounding you crystal in light, which will both cleanse and recharge them.
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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 9:42:05 GMT -5
PROGRAMMING CRYSTALS
Crystals should be programmed after cleansing and recharging, in order to set your intent.
Place the crystal in your hand, visualize white light surrounding it, and feel the energy buzzing.
Say something that you are confortable with, like.. "I dedicate the crystal to light and love, may it do only right, and be open from above"..
Be sure to choose the crystal the you are attuned to, and one that is suitable to the intent of which you are using it for.
Next say something like.. "I program this crystal for.....", love, success, etc etc, whatever you want it for.
Place it where you will see it often, or in your pocket, on a chain, etc. Hold it often, you may wish to reprogram often.
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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 10:33:04 GMT -5
CRYSTAL DIVINATION
This is the standard outline that I use in reading crystals. All crystals have traditional meanings associated with them, and you can use any stone. This is just a suggested outline, but any crystals can be used, the meaning of the stone will clearly answer the questions you ask. You can add any stone to the bag you choose, as you get familiar with the different stone's meanings. Every crystal has it's own unique vibration that calls out to our own energy, according to what we need. Just place the stones in a bag, ask your question, and pick out a stone. If more than one falls out, read them all. Not all the meanings are listed so it is often needed to consult a crystal book for furthur understanding of the crystal's properties, and what it is telling you. The more you use the stones the more familiar they get. I have a few stone books and a very good one is 'The Crystal Bible' by Judy Hall.
Amethyst- A life change and shift in awareness. A faithfulness in love, freedom from jealousy.
Agate- Worldly success or a pleasant surprise. Good health, wealth, and long life. Particularly lucky for people connected with the earth.
Blue lace agate- Healing is needed.
Black agate- needs and will find courage and prosperity.
Red agate- Health and longivity are yours.
Bloodstone- Unpleasant surprise, unlickly to be an illness.
Red jasper- Pay attention to earthly affairs.
Adventurine- Futur growth, and expansion are possible, step up and take leader ship.
Garnet- A letter is on the way.
Citrine- Celestial wisdom is advising you.
Diamond, or Clear quartz- Permanence. Business advacement. If the crystal loses it's sparkle, betrayal.
Emerald- Fertility or a secret admirer. If colour pales, love is fading.
Hematite- New oppertunities await.
Jade- Needs and will find immortality and perfection.
Laps lazuli- Dinine favour is yours.
Quartz- Be sure to clarify issues you asked about and thos that arise.
Rose quartz- Love ans self-healing are needed and will come.
Snow quartz-Profound changes are coming.
Ruby- Power and passion, good fortune and friendship, but beware of strngers at this time.
Sapphire- truth and chastity and the past will catch up with you.
Snowflake obsidian- End of a challanging time.
Tiger's eye- All is not as it appears to be.
Unakite- Compromise and integration.
Opal- Death or ending. If the crystal loses it's brilliance, an unfaithful lover.
Sardonyx- A wedding may be in the offing.
Topaz- Excersize caution.
Turquoise- A journey is imminent.
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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 10:33:29 GMT -5
CRYSTAL ELIXERS
Since crystals have strong vibrational energies, you can transfer them into water. You can apply to the skin, add to bathwater, or take internally(if not poisonous).
Place the cleansed gem into a bowl of spring water. If stone is toxic or friable place in a jar, in the bowl. Stand the bowl in sunlight for 12 hours. Remove gem. Place elixer into an airtight bottle. To precerve for more than a week add 50% brandy or vodka to preserve.
To make a dosage bottle
Add seven drops of the mother tincture to a glass dropper bottle. Fill with 1/3 brandy to 2/3 water if taken on the skin or internally. For use as an eyedrop solution only use water.
Here are a few popular elixers.
Black Tourmaline- To be sprayed into air with a mister. Provides psychic protection and screens electromagnetic smog. Releases toxic energy from emotions, mind and body. Blue Lace Agate- Treats eye infections. Flourite- Breaks up blockages in the etheric body. Jadeite- Heals eye conditions, brings peace. Amazonite- Balances metabolism. Hematite- Strengthens boundaries. Kunzite- Opens the heart. Amber- Antibiotic, heals throat infections. Golden Beryl- Gargle for sore throats. Bloodstone- Remove emotional stagnation, and constipation. Charoite- Cleanser of the body. Herkimer Diamond- Aids Psychic vision, and dream recall. Moss Agate- Treats fungal infections.
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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 10:33:58 GMT -5
CRYSTAL CORRESPONDES Crystals have healing properties within the body. Simply place the crystal over the organ to bring it into balance as needed.
BRAIN- Amber, Green Tourmaline, Dark blue Tourmaline, Beryl, Blue lace Agate EAR- Amber, Red-black and Snowflake Obsidian, Celestite, Rhodonite, Orange Calcite EYES- Aquamarine, Beryl, Chalcedony, Chrysoprase, Sapphire, Charoite, Dark Blue Tourmaline, Celestite, Blue Flourite, Fire Agate, Cat's Eye, Orange Calcite TEETH- Aquamarine, Rutilate Quartz, Flourite NECK- Aquamarine, Quartz Shoulders- Selenite MUSCLE TISSUE- Cuprite, Magnetite, Danburite LUNGS- Beryl, Pink Tourmaline, Peridot, Rhodonite, Amber, Dioptase, Kunzite, Lapis Lazuli, Turquiose, Rhodochrosite, Sardonyx, Blue Tourmaline, Chrysocolla, Emerald, Morganite SPLEEN- AMber, Aquamarine, Azurite, Bloodstone, Chalcedony, Red Obsidian STOMACH- Green Fluorite, Fire Agate, Beryl INTESTINES- Beryl, Peridot, Celestite, Green Flourite APPENDIX- Chrysolite ARMS- Malachite, Jadeite PROSTATE- Chrysoprase TESTES- Jadeite, Topaz, Carnelian, Variscite HANDS- Moldavite, Aquamarine, Moonstone SKELETAL SYSTEM- Amozonite, Azurite, Chrysocola, Calcite, Cuprite, Fluorite, Agate, Purple Fluorite, Iron Pyrite NERVOUS SYSTEM- Amber, Green Jade, Lapis, Green tourmaline, Dendritic Agate BONE MARROW- Purple Flourite, PINEAL GLAND- Gem Rhodonite PITUITARY GLAND-Pieyersite JAW- Aquamarine THROAT- Aquamarine, Beryl, Lapis, Blue Tourmaline, Amber, Green Jasper THYROID- Amber, Aquamarine, Azurite, Blue Tourmaline, Citrine THYMUS- Aventurine, Blue Tourmaline HEART- Cuprite, Rose Quartz, Charite, Rhodonite, Garnet, Dioptase LIVER- Aquamarine, Beryl, Bloodstone, Carnelian, Red jasper, Charoite, Danburine GALL BLADDER- Carnelian, Jasper, Topaz, Calcite, Yellow Quartz, Tiger's Eye, KIDNEYS- Aquamarine, Beryl, Hematite, Jadeite, Nephrite, Rose Quartz, Citrine, Orange Calcite, Smokey Quartz, Amber PANCREAS-Red Tourmaline, Blue Lace Agate, Chrysocola, SPINE- Garnet, Tourmaline, Beryl FALLOPIAN TUBES- Chrysoprase FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM- Carnelian, Moon Stone, Chrysoprase, Amber, Topaz, Unakite BLADDER- Topaz, Jasper, Amber, Orange Calcite CIRCULATORY SYSTEM AND BLOOD- Amethyst, Bloodstone, Chalcedony, Hemetite, Red Jasper VEINS- Varisite, Pyrolusite, Snowflake Obsidian KNEES- Azurite, Jadeite JOINTS- Calcite, Azurite, Rhodonote, Magnetite SKIN- Azurite, Brown Jasper, Green Jasper FEET- Onyx, Smokey Quartz, Apophyllite ENDOCRINE SYSTEM- Amber, Amethyst, Yellow Jasper, Pink Tourmaline, Fore Agate IMMUNE SYSTEM- Amethyst, Black Tourmaline, Lapis, Malachite, Turquoise DIGESTIVE TRACT- Chrysocola, Red Jade, Green Jasper METABOLISM- Chrysocolla, Red Jasper, Green Jasper BACK- Malachite, Sapphire, Lapis LOWER BACK- Carnelian CAPILLARIES- Dendritic Agate
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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 11:38:09 GMT -5
CHAKRA CRYSTALS
Crystals have the ability to heal and balance chakras when the appropriate stone is place on the chakra, on the front or back, of the body. Leave for approx. 15 minuttes. Stones can be placed on all chakras, or above the head and below the feet for certain tasks.
Grounding energy from crown to base- Smokey Quartz Opening and cleansing all- Amber, Dendritic Agate, Malachite Cleansing and protecting all- Tourmaline, Garnet Aligning- Boji Stone, Yellow Kunzite, Kyanite Elevating- Turquoise Cleansing lower chakras- Bloodstone
HIGHER CROWN- Kunzite, Apophylie, Celstite, Muscovite, Selenite, Petalite, Azeztulite, Phenacite
CROWN- Amethyst, Alexandrite, Moldavite, Citrine, Diamond, Quartz, Red Serpentine, Purple Jasper, Clear Tourmaline, Golden Beryl, Lepidolite, Purple Sapphire
BROW/3RD EYE- Apophyllie, Sodalite, Moldavite, Azurite, Clear Quartz, Herkimer Diamond, Lapis Lazuli, Garnet, Purple Flourite, Kunzite, Lepidolite, Malichite with Azurite, Royal Sapphire, Electric Blue Obsidian, Azezulite, Atacamite
THROAT- Azurite, Turquiose, Amethyst, Aquamarine, Blue Topaz, Blue Tourmaline, Chrysocolla, Amber, Kunzite, Amethyst, Lepidolite, Blue Obsidian, Petalite
HIGHER HEART- Diopsite, Kunzite
HEART- Rose Quartz, Green Quartz, Aventurine, Kunzite, Varicite, Muscovite, Red Calcite, Rhodonite, Watermelon Tourmaline, Pink Tourmaline, Green Tourmaline, Peridot, Jade, Emerald, Apophyllite, Lepidolite, Morganite, Green Quartz, Pink Danburite, Ruby, Chrysocolla, Green Sapphire
SOLAR PLEXUS- Malachite, Jasper, Tiger's Eye, Citrine, Yellow Tourmaline, Golden Beryl, Rhodochrosite, Smithsonite, Yellow Topaz, Citrine, Amber
SACRAL- Blue Jasper, Red Jasper, Orange Carnelian, Topaz, Orange Calcite, Citrine, Coral, Moonstone, Fire Opal
BASE- Azurite, Bloodstone, Chrysocolla, Obsidian, Golden Yellow Topaz, Black Tourmaline, Carnelian, Citrine, Red Jasper, Smokey Quartz, Ruby, Pyrite, Garnet, Hematite
EARTH- Boji Stone, Fire Agate, Brown Jasper, Smokey Quartz, Cuprite, Hematite, Mahogony Obsidian, Tourmaline, Rhodonite
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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 11:50:00 GMT -5
AURA CRYSTALS
Wear or place gems around your body, aprox. 5 inches away.
AMBER- Ancient protecter. Aligns aura with physical body, mind and spirit. Draw away negative energy and cleans the aura.
AMETHYST- Gentle cleanser, heals holes, and protect, draws divine energies.
APACHE TEAR(clear black Obsidian)- Genle protecter absorbs negative energies.
BLACK JADE- Guards aura against negativity.
BLOODSTONE- Etheric cleanser.
CITRINE- Cleans and alligns, filling gaps.
FLUORITE & TOURMALINE- Provides psychic shield.
GREEN TOURMALINE- Heals holes.
JET- Protects auras from negative thought-forms.
LABRADORITE- Prevents energy from leaking from aura, protection by aligning to spiritual energies.
MAGNETITE- Strengthens.
QUARTZ- Cleanses, protects, and increses the auric field, seeling holes.
KUNZITE & SELENITE- Detaches mental influences from auras.
PETALITE- Highest vibration. Releases negative karma and entities from auras.
SMOKEY QUARTZ- Grounds energy. Dissolves negative pattern encased.
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Post by lunaspirit on May 9, 2006 12:35:16 GMT -5
Wow...Animal...I love this!
Judy Hall's book (and it is a little bible) is just wonderful to learn about crystals. I love working with stones and crystals! I use them all the time!
Thank You So Much!
Love and Light,
LunaSpirit
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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 19:18:52 GMT -5
Hello Lunaspirit! There you are, it has been awhile, we have been afar, It's been so long, since you have graced me with your song! I sadly missed the mind, body and spirit, convention, But it was not a product of my intentions!! Something came up, and abosultey demanded, every ounce of my attention. How is communicating with animals goin'? I hope you report, that success is flowin'! Yes Judy Hall's book is great, it is the best reference I have for gems, though I use other resources as well, and ofcourse from myself too. I have some of Scott Cunninghams books, DJ Conway's, Ann Moura, a some others too, I have more to post still, and will post proper citation when I am finished, of all resources used, and of course I alter and cut words out too. Gems are great, no doubt about it, amazing how they resonate!
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on May 9, 2006 19:44:20 GMT -5
animal thank you again for the great info here!!
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Post by osiris on May 9, 2006 20:14:47 GMT -5
Thanks so much. I hava quite a few stones and crystals but my favorite is the 1.5 inch or so (not man made) crystal ball i picked up. But recently i grabbed this great piece of labradorite i cleansed it and keep it with me it has an amazing look to it but i dont really know much about it except its vibration,looks and feel are very helpful to me. Any help with what this stone does would be wonderful. Thanks Todd. It is green but at angles in light it shows some clear and blue colors.
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Post by dman on May 9, 2006 20:42:11 GMT -5
LABRADORITE (Spectrolite)- Very mystical, protective stone. Prevents energy from leaking from aura, protection by aligning to spiritual energies. Raises consciousness, connects to universal energies.
A stone to aid in forming new worlds, and into other lives, and facilitates initiation into the mysteries. Aligns the physical and etheric bodies. A stone for intuition, and psychic awareness, including the art of 'right timing', bringing messages from the unconscious mind. Calms an overactive mind, banishes fear, and removes psychic thought forms, is a very protective stone. Dispeller of illusion, showing intent behind thoughts and actions, also bringing up memories of the past, including past lives. A stone for transformation, preparing the body and soul, for ascension.
Higher heart Chakra.
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Post by osiris on May 9, 2006 20:50:23 GMT -5
Very cool thanks. Im not to studied on crystals but it seems i found the right one for me for now. Or it found me...?
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Post by osiris on May 10, 2006 19:03:47 GMT -5
"With the dawning of Christianity this knowledge [of crystals] was suppressed because of the pagan significance the majority of such jewels bore." Edmond Harold, occult crystal use teacher
We live in a time today where the Christian church has unknowingly incorporated many aspects of Eastern mysticism and the occult. This has successfully been accomplished through the cunning of false teachers and lack of knowledge of truth on the part of people. The subject of this article asks, "Do crystals fall into this realm of incorporated falsehoods, or are the use and belief in crystals for help or guidance something God has no problem with"? The quote above by a Edmond Harold, who teaches how to use crystals, reveals that it was early Christianity that suppressed the use of crystals as a power. This should tell us something. However I have found today that things are changing; some Christians are bringing this old practice into the church under the name of God. The purpose of this article is to shed light on the Christians' involvement in the belief and use of crystals, other gems, and their alleged powers.
History of Crystal Use
According to some beliefs, the knowledge of the power of crystals originated in the mythological city of Atlantis [New Agers believe this city really did exist before it sunk into the sea]. It was supposed to have been the priesthood of this period who started to develop "crystal power".
Whether or not this is legend or fact, crystals and other gems have been used as a power source in history by Egyptian priests who worshiped Ra [Biblical false god; Ammon - Ra], the ancient Celt Druids, Mayan medicine men, American Indian shamans, and Middle Eastern religions. A modern day well known witch, Laurie Cabot said, "Crystals have a long history of being used by shamans". Laurie Cabot, Power Of The Witch, pg 132
The primary uses of crystals over time, and into the present, have been for telling fortunes, health, protection, cleansing or aligning the chakras [yoga power points on the body], controlling the Kundalini or "Serpent Force" [yoga] in the spine, developing psychic powers and mediumistic qualities.
According to teachings on crystals the power in them is in the form of "energies", sound vibrations and electromagnetic fields. The belief is that these sound vibrations and fields are part of nature, and thus can affect other matter and thought by projecting these "good vibrations" into matter that is near the stones. For humans, this means crystals are supposed to have the power to balance the body with nature via their vibrations. [If you have read other articles on this site you may notice that this theme of being associated with nature comes with several other deceptive teachings incorporated into the body of Christ]
One of the names these stones are referred to is "Children of the Earth". If this sounds pantheistic, it is because it is. The crystals are supposed to embody the "Devine", as the pagan nature religions believe all objects do. It is, perhaps, why modern day witches who belong to the nature religion of WICCA, use them daily. Crystals and other stones are part of the artifacts contained on their altars and worn on their bodies.
As part of this belief, crystals are programmed by actually speaking commands to them. Hence they are considered to have an intelligence. The belief is these stones will respond to spoken words and thoughts, including the projection of love and positive thinking. Supposedly these things are returned to the programmer in receiving benefits. There is also quite a ritual to personalize a crystal.
In effect, the crystal takes on the attribute of a personal god, i.e. It is devine, has intelligence, is spoken to, returns benefits. On the down side, if not treated right [cleansed, proper programming, etc.] it is taught that the crystal can cause problems for the owner.
Underlying all these things is the central purpose of the crystal. According to the teachings, this central purpose is to develop an awareness of the "4th dimension" [spiritual plane], and a to foster a change in consciousness or awareness of the "true self". What his amounts to is the ability to contact spirit entities, and an a realization of what the "true self" is: a god. These things are a major aspect of ancient Babylon beliefs, now called Eastern mysticism or New Age, which state we are all gods. The use of crystals is just one of many avenues in the occult that attempt to bring a person to this awareness.
Demonic Evangelists
One of the more interesting aspects of the increased popularity and use of crystals is who, or what, are the primary evangelists of these teachings today. Are they teachers of the Word of God? No, quite the opposite. According to occultists, they are the Ascended Masters. These are a group of a hierarchy of spiritual entities. Channeled by many in the New Age occult realm, and referred to as "spirit guides", it is obvious that these are demonic spirits. One of the better known channelers and writer of their teachings is cult leader Elizabeth Claire Prophet of the Church Universal and Triumphant in Montana.
Passing on the teachings of crystals is the purpose of two of these demonic spirits; Master Rogoczy, [more commonly known as Saint Germain], and Djual Khal, known as one of the Tibetan Masters.
Why are these demonic spirits pushing the teaching of the knowledge and use of crystals and other gemstones? I believe the answer lies in the primary purpose of the crystal; awareness that man is a god, and to assist in ushering what is called "The New Age". And, like Satan did with Eve in the garden, pull Christians and others away from the truth, away from faith in God, to believe that we too can become like God.
A Revealing Summary
Looking at a summary outline of what has been covered so far may give a more pointed view to those who may be involved in using crystals, and provide a memory base for what is seen later in this commentary. The main points are; 1. Crystal use have their source in ancient pagan religions. 2. They are stones that are supposed to be divine and have the attributes of life and gods. 3. Crystals are used as an aspect in the practice of witchcraft. 4. They cause the user to develop psychic and mediumistic powers. 5. Crystals are used in channeling and fortune telling. 6. Their uses are doctrines being taught by demonic entities today.
Crystals In The Church?
It seems fitting to start this section first with the last item in the summary; their use is being taught by demonic entities.. One cannot deny, by the admission of occultists, that these entities are teaching it. In light of this, and because of the incorporating use of them by some Christians, we need to see what was prophetically said to us. Paul warned us by the Spirit of God;
"But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons." 1 Tim 4:1
The fact that crystal doctrines are being taught by demons, and that we were specifically warned about these doctrines coming into the church, and that they would cause people to fall away from the faith, should stop anyone in their tracks if they espouse these things. Another thing to consider was noted in the quote by the occult author at the beginning of this paper. That is, when Christianity began, there was a realization that the use of crystals was pagan. So, it was suppressed. However, in these times, something has gone wrong. It's back, as the Spirit of God forewarned. The thing that is disturbing is how easily people can be deceived today.
Truth Excused Away
There would be some who would say that as long as you pray to God about it, as long as using crystals works, "bears good fruit", using them is alright in the sight of God. There is this false doctrine of "sanctifying" almost anything so it can be used by Christians. Some may say the use of crystals is even suggested in the Bible. Those who would believe any of these things are seriously mistaken! The lack of knowledge of the totality of Word of God, twisting scriptures and taking them out of context, contribute to being deceived. Unfortunately, many will believe what they are told without taking the time to search out these things for themselves.
For instance; so what if using a crystal has brought good things, that if what you read or what someone taught you concerning their use, comes about? What numerous people do not realize is that just because something works does not mean it is of God. Consider this warning many ignore by taking the "bear good fruit" verses out of context.
"If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth they a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, 'Let us go after other gods', which thou has not known, 'and let us serve them'; thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet or dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth [tests] you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Ye shall walk after the the Lord your God [not stones], and fear Him [not stones], and obey His voice, and ye shall serve Him, and cleave unto Him." Deut 13:1-4
So, just because it works does not mean it is from God. Do crystals fall into the realm of being other gods? Without a doubt. We'll look into this more later. Who are we to walk after? God. Whose voice are we to obey? God's. Does God dwell in crystals? Only in the doctrine of the false religions. The other thing to note is that persons who are into this are following the voice of these Ascended Masters and not God's.
What about Scripture referring to crystals and gems in general?
Crystals & The Word
There are several areas that gemstones are mentioned in the Word of God. Three of these are major in that many gemstones are spoken of.
The first area has to do with the clothing of the Jewish priests that would serve in the Tabernacle of God while Israel wandered in the wilderness after coming out of Egypt.
The Ephod the priests wore had onyx put on them. The Breast Plate Of Judgment had twelve different stones put on them. Were these stones to be used by the priests of the true God as they were used by the occult priests of Egypt, the land God took them out of; that is, for their alleged power? The Word says contrary. The scriptures tell us that these stones represented the twelve tribes of Israel. Each stone had the name of a tribe on them. The stones were lined up in four rows with each row having three stones. God said they were a memorial to Israel, not a source of power to the priests.
The second mention of a collection of gemstones is in Ezekiel 28. These verses concern Satan. In this chapter, God said that before Satan's rebellion, he was covered with gemstones. God lists nine stones, which were the same stones the priests had on their clothing, except, Satan did not have any stones in the third row of stones on the Breast Plate. Again, no mention of the use of these stones for power. They appear to be more in the line of symbolizing beauty and being precious.
The third mention of gemstones is in Revelation 14:4. In this verse the jewels are a significant aspect of the Whore of Babylon; the false church. This false church is said to be decorated with jewels.
The fourth is in Revelation 21. Here again we see twelve jewel stones mentioned in symbolism. In describing the New Jerusalem, the walls are made up of twelve foundations. Each foundation contains a jewel that represents each of the twelve apostles. Again, no power or use of stones is mentioned.
So there is no mention in the Bible in a positive way of any kind of using crystals or other gems as a source to seek out. However the Bible does say things that show us the dangerous folly of getting involved in using crystals...
God's People Are Not To Incorporate Outside His Word
For instance, as mentioned before, one of the things involved in the use of crystals is the development of psychic and mediumistic qualities. And as seen, witches and shamans make use of crystals. So would God endorse or allow something that would lead His people astray?
"When you enter the land which the Lord your God gives you, you shall not learn to imitate the detestable things of these nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who... uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead..
But as for you the Lord your God has not allowed you to do so." Deut 18:9-14
Unfortunately for Israel, they did not listen to the voice of God, but learned to incorporate the religious aspects of other nations in addition to their worship of God. The introduction of crystals into the church shows the same folly happening.
If the priests of Israel were using the jewels in the Breast Plate as tool of magic or power, they were wrong. Regardless of whether they did or not, they did eventually incorporate the use of jewels as a power source, as a help. What did God say about this?
Idolatry and Adultery
The verse below shows us where Israel ended up. "And it shall come to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land and committed adultery with stones and with stocks." Jer 2:9
The sad thing is, as seen in Jeremiah 2, Israel attempted to justify these things, to make light of them. And don't many do this today? Sometimes you will hear people say, "But what could it hurt. Just because the Bible is silent on it doesn't mean God is against it." But God called them backsliding adulterers. God also told Ezekiel;
"Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations." Ez 10:2
What abominations was Israel involved with? Part of what God told Ezekiel was, "I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears and a beautiful crown on thy head." vs 11. God then tells Ezekiel concerning this;
"Thou has also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I have given thee, and madest to thyself images of men and didst commit whoredom with them." Ez 16:17
They made these things objects of worship and power. Ezekiel, like Jeremiah, also speaks of Israel ignoring God and also making light of using stones.
"...ye pollute yourself with all your idols, even unto this day; and shall I be inquired of by you, O house of Israel? As I live, saith the Lord God, "I will not be inquired of by you.
And that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye say, 'We will be as the heathen as the families of the countries, to serve wood and stone". Ez 20:31,32 God says we cannot do what the shamans, witches, and other New Age followers do. But there are many that do just this in ignorance and in blindness to the truth of God's word.
Many times God symbolized His relationship with Israel as that of a husband and wife. Hence, when they sought out other than what was in His word, things other than Himself as a help, God likened this to a wife who has an adulterous relationship. In the same respect, the church is called "the bride of Christ". How much more then, would God say the same to Christians involved in the use of crystals? In the same manner as the above verses, Paul noted;
"You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons [in the case of crystals; the Ascended Masters]; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy?" 1 Cor 10:21-22 God is specific when he says we cannot be synchronistic and expect to be heard by him. We cannot incorporate the ideals and methods of other religions and worship him. We cannot follow the teachings of these demonic entities and follow God, partake with him at his table. He will not be at the same table with them.
Idolatry? Give Me a Break!
Some would deny that the use of crystals and other gems is idolatry and adultery. However, as seen, they are spoken to, programmed, petitioned, and relied upon. They are considered part of the "Devine" and considered to have intelligence. They are even cared for; cleansed and revered. This is idolatry! For they have become a substitute or a co-help aside from the true God.
Habakkuk also shows the folly in denying this as idolatry, yet believing in the doctrine that crystals contain the "Devine", or have intelligence, life.
"Woe to him that saith to wood, "arise", "Awake"; to the dumb stone, "Arise, it shall teach!"... There is no breath at all in the midst of it". Hab 2:19
In the same manner, Paul said; "Being offspring of God, we ought not to think the divine nature is like gold, silver, or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. Therefore, overlooking the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all everywhere should repent." Acts 17:29
Paul referred to the times prior to the revelation of Jesus, "the times of ignorance". But we see today, these times have come back. A key problem is that many do not know the Word of God, so they are easily deceived by many things today. While not not knowing or understanding these things so far discussed, precious stones and crystals are sought instead of that which is the true precious stone, Jesus.
Speaking of Jesus, Paul said,
"To whom coming, as unto a living stone [not as a dumb stone of the earth], disallowed, indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious...
Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, 'Behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious, and he that believeth in Him shall not be confounded." 1 Peter 2:-4-8
Therefore, would God allow a substitute or an additional precious stone? What precious stone does God say to believe in? Jesus and nothing else.
"I am the Lord: that is My name: and my glory I will not give to another, neither my praise to graven images [any contrived likeness of God's attributes like crystals]. Is 42:8
"...lest thou shouldest say, 'Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image and my molten image hath commanded them". Is 48:5
For Christians, true faith is faith in God through Jesus, not through stones. The Word tells us there is one mediator between God and man; Jesus, not stones nor the substituting words of the demonic Ascended Masters. Christians cannot go to a crystal to get to God, or some power. Our petitions are to be to God, not to crystals; or has Habakukk put it, to dumb stones that have no life.
You Can't See A Lie Unless You Know The Truth
Knowing the truth is the only defense against the lies. As we spend time in the Word; reading ALL of it, we will most of the time readily discern falsehood. One of the better areas to see truth in the aspect of this article, is found in the Psalms. Read them. Note the simple things such as in the 23rd Psalm, "The Lord is my shepard", and what He does, such as He leads, guides, restores, provides rest. Note in all the Psalms, the attributes of God, what He does, and the absence of anything outside of Him alone. If we can grasp these things, these attributes of God, then such things such as the incorporation of many of these falsehoods and those who propagate them would not be successful. What should we do if we find we are into something like this and realize that it is truly not of God? Paul gave us the answer when he said "repent", which simply means to turn away from it. God is merciful to forgive.
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Post by dman on May 10, 2006 22:47:29 GMT -5
You are very welcome! If anything I post is useful to anyone at all, then it worth any amount time put into it. I can usually type pretty quicky, sometimes as fast as I can think of things, and so it is no 'trouble' at all. (HAHA funny is when I think of typing, like a second ago, and now, I can't type well!) So silly! Orisis good information posted there. Systems of control no doubt, supression. I will not be supressed! Priests, of 'past' times, would wear rings of Amethyst to aid in celebacy before the church decided to shun and burn witches a the stake! I would think the church would see God in all things,l and would therefor worship everything, like some religions do.. Technically to be a perfect 'Christian', as some churches would believe but not all, would mean to not eat anything we need not to eat, or to do anything that we don't absolutely need to do. To have no desire whatsoever. I like these words personally, by Kahlil Gibran.. And one of the elders of the city said, "Speak to us of Good and Evil." And he answered: Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil. For what is evil but good tortured by its own hunger and thirst? Verily when good is hungry it seeks food even in dark caves, and when it thirsts, it drinks even of dead waters. You are good when you are one with yourself. Yet when you are not one with yourself you are not evil. For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided house. And a ship without rudder may wander aimlessly among perilous isles yet sink not to the bottom. You are good when you strive to give of yourself. Yet you are not evil when you seek gain for yourself. For when you strive for gain you are but a root that clings to the earth and sucks at her breast. Surely the fruit cannot say to the root, "Be like me, ripe and full and ever giving of your abundance." For to the fruit giving is a need, as receiving is a need to the root. You are good when you are fully awake in your speech, Yet you are not evil when you sleep while your tongue staggers without purpose. And even stumbling speech may strengthen a weak tongue. You are good when you walk to your goal firmly and with bold steps. Yet you are not evil when you go thither limping. Even those who limp go not backward. But you who are strong and swift, see that you do not limp before the lame, deeming it kindness. You are good in countless ways, and you are not evil when you are not good, You are only loitering and sluggard. Pity that the stags cannot teach swiftness to the turtles. In your longing for your giant self lies your goodness: and that longing is in all of you. But in some of you that longing is a torrent rushing with might to the sea, carrying the secrets of the hillsides and the songs of the forest. And in others it is a flat stream that loses itself in angles and bends and lingers before it reaches the shore. But let not him who longs much say to him who longs little, "Wherefore are you slow and halting?" For the truly good ask not the naked, "Where is your garment?" nor the houseless, "What has befallen your house?" Sweet! I didn't know that.... hehe..
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Post by crazycat on May 11, 2006 5:48:13 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_GibranI finally had to look up some things about just who Kahlil Gibran is..hehe! I am glad I did. I thought it to be an interesting fact that he was of the Bahá'í Faith. Ronni, either here on her forum or on the WB forum, once posted a religious test for us all to take to see what religion our beliefs was the most compatible with. The Bahá'í Faith was the one that fit my beliefs more so than any other. I just ran across a Bahá'í Faith website just a week or so ago and I booked marked it to do some reading on for there were some things that caught my eye about and felt maybe I should check more into this faith. I am going to have to check into it for sure now. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith Also, read more about Kahlil Gibran. Orisis, I don't know exactly how to take what you posted. Did you write this article about crystals and Christianity or did you get it from some website? If you got it from a website would you mind posting from where. I was just wondering because in your post the day before, you sounded excited about finding the purpose for your crystals and then went from that to saying owning and using the power in crystal is a form of worshiping the created item and was something that one needs to repent of. My thoughts on this is that all religions and socities, whatever they want to be called, all have their ritual and rules and spiritual or magical knowledge. Ever single one of them are useful in helping a person to advance in spiritual developements. To me I don't see any difference in using crystal power, than in using electric power..hehe of course there are some Christian branches that do think electricity is of evil and do not use it. On TV shows, it does show them using oil lamps, so I guess using oil power is ok with them. I can not see any difference in using oil or electicity, wind power or solar or even water power,except for the fact that some are better for the enviroment than others. As a christian myself, I do use electricity and all modern technology I can afford and anything else that will help make my life better. I don't worship and thank the electricity, or thank or worship the food I eat. The worship and thanks go to the creator of those thing. All things were created by the God source and all that he/she created, he/she stated that is is good. I really don't understand completely in my physical pea brain the purpose of the darkness and why it came into being. I just take it that the original purpose of the darkness must have been good too for it to exist. I figured it has to be a neccessary ingredient in the creation of the physical realm itself. Something neccessary for experiencing/knowing self to happen, maybe. What I believe about religion is that religions itself are rules and rituals that a person lives by and they are all created by the human beings, the created being, not by the God source itself. As we live and experience in our home here in the physical we learned what items were good for this and for that and they got incorperated into the rules and rituals and some even got so far from the source that they begin to worship created beings and things rather than the God source itself. We are all here in a fallen state of being with both good and bad within every cell waring/in constant battle within. The forces of life and death are at war in us. The Why it came to be is something I would like to 'know', of which I suppose the answer is somewhere within, The sending of the angel messenger and masters was a 'type of' unto the time was complete. The Hebrew religion was created as a type to show that fallen man could not save himself through following rules and rituals or be able to even follow all those rules and rituals without falling short. In your own self your can make yourself a better and more powerful person by following spiritual rules, but the darkness within will always be waring against any progressed made. Jesus said that the religious leaders themselves were like cups that had been white washed on the outside, but inside that were full of dead man's bones. They followed the law to a T, but they still could not rid themselves of their bodies of death. All their ritual animal sacrifices only covered over their sin, it did not remove it and those rituals were just 'types of' the one true sacrifice that was promised to come. The man Jesus was the first begotten son of God who incarnated as a physical man. He was tempted by every sin that we are all tempted with. Every day that he was in the physical, he was tempted and he was able to keep himself free from sin. He so love all us that he laid down his life by his own accord to be that sacrifice that takes away all sin, from the past, present, and future. He is the TRUTH, the WAY, the LIFE. None can be transformed and become spiritual eternal sons of God again except through Him and the way He provided. You can become a highly spiritual physical being by following rituals and such, but you cannot conquer the death that reigns in you or remove yourself from the physical wheel of life. This gift to become sons of God is recieved by faith in the works of Jesus Christ, not by anything that you have done, but by what He did. To me that last paragraph is what true Christianity is. Jesus came and fullfilled the Law and gave us the greatest gift of all. He sat us free from all those rules and rituals. You are free to follow all the rules and rituals you want though, but all those little symbolic crackers and sip of wine or grape juice or going to a church meetings is not what saves you. All the meditations and prayers and doing spells for this or that will help one to live a better physical life in that it can help one to be more in control over their sin nature, but it cannot rid you of it. The religion of Christianity came afterwards with all it's rules and rituals and it's many branches that have reach out into all the world. I can see how it could be the Great Whore spoken of in Revelations, for it came into being afterward, like a slap in the face, turning the eyes of the people back to the rituals. But INTWINED in all it's corruptness is where one can find the TRUTH. Some think that we may conquer death by cloning, but those cloned bodies, if we were able to transfer our essence into one, would still be ruled by sickness and death. Science is not the WAY. I use to think that it was a possibility, but gave that ideal up. Science is just as corrupt as religions. I said all that to say why I don't believe using crystal power would be a form of worshiping demons. It's more likely we are the demons, after all we are the fallen one. The crystal stone is a rock that emmits energy and is programmable by us the demons...hehe. I can see where in the past that some group of people my have found one of those programmed crystals that was used by some of those priest from say Atlantis. Hehe... and in their ignorance begain to worship it because of it's power. I can picture that. Somehow I find it hard to believe that someone would worship or pray to a stone in this day or age, but I suppose it's a possibility. LOL! I don't know if that was too much for spell check to work or what, but it says there is no mistakes. That is hard to believe. LOL! I always make tons of mistakes. Spell check must not be working tonight.
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Post by Lena on May 11, 2006 17:18:14 GMT -5
Very cool thanks. Im not to studied on crystals but it seems i found the right one for me for now. Or it found me...? Sure sounds like it!! Great find on your part.. I love crystals, and I love going to crystal shops. I'll go get some when I have more money, surely, I will! LOOOVE crystals. Any kind, but I keep amethyst structure by my bed. It's actually a candle holder, but it makes my dreams more clear and filled with imagery. I have different crystals pop up into my dreams once in a while, very symbolic, what their energies are telling me. I found labradorite in my book, and it looks beautiful. Here's what it says: Spiritually: L. is an outstanding "illusion killer". Like its colorful display of iridescence, it clearly shows us our goals and intentions - so we suddently see their real shape. Labradore fortifies intuition and mediumistic abilitieties (Crystal Power, Crystal Healing by Michael Gienger)
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Post by dman on May 12, 2006 3:55:34 GMT -5
I don't believe using crystal power would be a form of worshiping demons. It's more likely we are the demons, after all we are the fallen one. Yes, this is the morbid way I see things! I see the mind as the demon. It is, afterall.. what is inbetween us and our spirit, our 'body', our rightful claim to knowledge. Our mind fears knowledge.. Our mind is our hinderance. It is the source of our temptation. The number 666 is referred to as the beast, of the mortal mind. Yet the spirit is eternal. So as I see it we are not necassarily 'demons', but we are both angels and demons, and the demon is what stands in our way.
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Post by crazycat on May 12, 2006 4:41:57 GMT -5
So as I see it we are not necassarily 'demons', but we are both angels and demons, and the demon is what stands in our way. Yes that is the way I see it. Both life and death is ruling in our physical bodies side by side, light and darkness in our minds, and we are spiritual beings (angels) who have fallen. A fallen angel is refered to as a demon. We have both the Christ (the God spark) and the anti-christ (the beast) within. If we let the Christ reign within our hearts we will work our way back to being an angel, but if we let the anti-christ to rule through our egos we will become the beast. The egos keep us in an unconscious state causing us to function through our minds whether than knowing through our consciousness. I got that last sentence from the gnostic studies. I think what they are meaning by our consciousness is what is refered as our higher self. Lena, I have an amethyst crystal, about a three inch piece. I bought it a good 10 or 15 years ago and never new it help dreams to be clear. I just bought it for it's beauty. Hehe.. as of tonight it is going to have a new home beside my bed. Thanks!
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Post by Lena on May 12, 2006 12:53:40 GMT -5
Here's some more info on Amethyst from Crystal Power, Crystal Healing. A word on the book. It is a little unconventional in that it explores how crystals form and different types of them, there are 8, based on their structure. Some look like squares, some look like triangles, etc. And then he goes on to describe human types based on these 8 types, and this is the only description of me I completely relate to. Depending on your type, there are crystals that resonate better with you. Of course, they all have some kind of value.
Amethys Healing Spiritually: A. encourages constant spiritual wakeflness, a sense of spirituality and insight in the reality of the spirit. It imbues a sense of justice and the ability to judge and provokes honesty and uprightess. As a meditation stone it helps quieten the mind is an aid in finding deep inner peace and discovering the wisdom residing in ourselves.
Emotionally: A. will help in sadness and grief and lend support in coming to terms with loss. It clarifies the inner world of images and also our dream lives. If you put a. under your pillow (I'm guessing near the bed it has the same effect), you will find that, initially, it will strongly stimulate draming untill all undigested impressions have been clarified. After a few days, however, sleep will suddenly become calmer, deeper, and more refreshing. During waking consciousness, amethyst stimulates inspiration and intuition.
Mentally: A. encourages sobriety and awareness. It helps us face up to all experiences, even unpleasant ones, and encourages consciously dealing with perception. This heightens concentration, and effectiveness in thinking and acting and encourages the overcoming of blocks, uncontrolled mechanisms, and addictive behavior.
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