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Post by mandala on May 29, 2006 17:54:46 GMT -5
Quote; Ozzy Osbourne (Black Sabbath) - War Pigs - generals gathered in their masses, just like witches at black masses, evil minds that plot destruction, scorceror of death construction, in the fields the bodies burning, as the war machine keeps turning, death and hatred to mankind, poisoning their brain washed minds. Politicians hide themselves away, they only started the war, why should they go out to fight, they leave that all to the poor, time will tell on their power minds, making war just for fun, treating people like pawns in chess, wait till their judgment day comes. now the darkness wheel stops turning, ashes where the bodies burning, no more war pigs have the power, and of god has struck the hour, day of judgment day is god calling, on their knees war pigs crawling, begging mercies for their sins, Satan laughing, spreads his wings. I hope all these lyrics are correct ! War is only good for the under taker. I wouldn't call myself an Osbourne fan, but I like that song! Also, "war is only good for the undertaker" is part of the lyrics to "War" by Edward Starr. I love that one! It's easy to tell too. Look at my signiture!
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Post by bezjak on Jun 9, 2006 10:25:47 GMT -5
You know politicians should fight their own battles....if the leaders of countries have "beef" with each other then let 'em rumble. I'd pay good money to see "Bush vs bin Laden" or "Blair vs Saddam". But I seriously doubt these guys are man enough for hand to hand combat. They would rather milk their respective countries and spheres of influence until the end of days. Cowards. But then again I don't think much of politicians in general.
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Post by osiris on Jun 9, 2006 15:08:48 GMT -5
The only time that this will stop is when we take OUR country back from the true infidel. There will be people in high places with amazing power and powers as well. And you will see the religous leaders involved more. At some point the weapons used will kill more in one blow than any nuclear weapon. Psychers will be in battle just as the warrior. And politicians will be barried in there holes somewhere to protect there worthless materials and selves. To bad if only we could MAKE them realize that we are not playing there games anymore it could end in peace instead.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jun 9, 2006 21:20:36 GMT -5
You would hope wouldn't you Osiris..
Throughout the ages there has been war and it all the same just we get told different excuses, but its all the same reasons religion or possesions ( land or otherwise), and will never change..
I do wish it would though..
I would also pay to see ole Howard up there with his boxing gloves on.. What a laugh I am sure he would burst into tears if the other fellow merely looked at him LOL!!
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Post by osiris on Jun 10, 2006 14:37:10 GMT -5
As a veteran sometimes i hate feeling that way...but really if someone fed me the old story of "if you dont like it live elsewhere"...I have thought of it very seriously. I mean lets get real how big are all the corporations going to get before they rival the country its to late thats what i think. Damn i hate these subjects.. gotta go later all. i no whats coming whenever i go to a topic like this but i just cannot avoid them lol... i care to damn much about all of us to avoid the whole subject... Am i the only person that thinks we need a KU. Walk up to the capital and tell um hay its over we are here to ask you to leave or make you. What are they going to do kill all of us arrest us all for trespassing...It does not matter what your title is you have no rights to tell anyone what they have to do period...pay taxes be broke all your life i say well you know....ok gotta go im burning to much energy here...
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jun 10, 2006 17:49:48 GMT -5
Yes i believe our own Presidents and Prime Ministers are no better than the ones they go to war with.. They are ALL DICTATORS... Look at our Country.. The Government disarmed the Public, and now keeps throwing Money at them to shut them up,( but is never quite enough to keep up with all the taxes and price rises) when they sense some unrest..Majority fall for the decoy... They have now passed new laws to control crowds during protests, just before a New Workplace reform has been introduced.. The normal average worker has no rights at all.. All Governments want Power the more countries they can control the more Power they have.. But we will always have to watch our back also,, because there are countries out there that have a history of blood baths and do not give it a second thought to it.. They are overpopulated and need room, they have a completely different mindset to our own.... But with the War in Iraq, Being a Mum I would be releived Hussain and his sons are not in power anymore. especially for my girls.. the horrific stories that came out of the country..But now it is hard to wrap my mind around the horrific stories coming out about the war crimes that are being commited by the very soldiers who were sent in to protcet the citizens.. There is so many fors and againsts.. It would be so nice if they all sat down and nodded and agreed .. LOL!! Look I can rabbit on for ages but wont...But probably already have LOL! DB
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Post by blank on Jun 11, 2006 23:10:08 GMT -5
Well good to see that yall have your heads screwed on, so who thinks Iran is getting invaded next? if you look on the world map Afganistan and Iraq are on oppisite sides of Iran which has clearly been labeled a "axis of evil"
Iraqbodycount.net
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Post by osiris on Jun 12, 2006 13:51:07 GMT -5
The thing that needs to be understood. And i do just because i was there in 95-6 is that they are used to operating in small "tribes" and fighting amongst each other. So when one individual has power well its bound to be a problem. We need to add a new unit in the military if we are to keep up. Soldiers are not police. We need to add some distinct unit to cover the ability to deal with small leftover terroist groups and POLICE. And also they need to be able to train others too. Make these super corporations pay for this. They are huge and they make a killing off of war. so we go in do our job and these corporations come clean up and re-build. Use mercs use whatever but they need to be responsible as much or more so than the government who is already pushed to the limit. If they are allowed to sell weapons over seas than they can pay for it. If they are involved and making money they can suck it up. That way the regular citizen does not have to pay stupid gas prices and whatnot. We should not suffer for there war mongering. Also i believe that when its time to go to war the population has more control over the decision not the government that want it in the first place. If we can fill pockets with war than it will never end. Saddam was no more a danger to this country than any other third world. Deal with the source deal with bin laden. And make sure the bush administration that so loves there oil (and the bin laden family) is gone. If you want to take all the politicians and start all over again while your at it. While your at it i know some news reporters that can follow as well.
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Post by bezjak on Jun 14, 2006 12:07:20 GMT -5
But that we are fighting for fuel for obsolete technology, that poisons the very air that we breath....that idea really sickens me. Giving money to a nation that secretly (or not so secretly) supports the very insurgency that is killing our troops. Madness.
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Post by sxy on Jun 14, 2006 23:54:01 GMT -5
Totally !!! It is money and they all have their hands in each other's pockets ~SXY~
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Post by bezjak on Jun 16, 2006 11:09:24 GMT -5
Please don't get me started on the catastrophe of the man-made "demon" money. An infectious plague developed to replace trading/ and bartering, simultaneously forcing our species to forgo learning basic skills of survival (growing grain, raising live-stock, proper cross-breeding, language, utilization of earths natural resources to their fullest potential, forcing us to specialize in activities that are fruitless and soulless.) Worthless paper that many long to hold and others worship like a god. Printed by the government of almost every Nation on this planet, yet instead of spreading it freely amonst its citizens, for their hard labor the citizens are taxed and milked by corporations so rich that they need not advertise their products. For the love of money people have been killed, maimed, eradicated, tortured, and imprisoned. I'm sure there are Sheiks in the Middle East are laughing right now knowing that the worth of their OPEC oil has been set by the western world, and while oil is useful it is as worthless as the Hundred Dollar Bills they wipe their asses with. It is as obsolete as the Mercedes-Benz, they drive and that the Germans make. But let me stop I'm ranting....
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jun 19, 2006 7:19:01 GMT -5
Fantastic rant Bezjak Keep going...
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Post by bezjak on Jun 20, 2006 11:55:53 GMT -5
This war or any war for that matter is mainly about ego and power. Or am I wrong? Sure we could talk about freedom, terrorists, money, infidels, religion, w.m.d's, revenge, xenophobia, creating jobs, just causes, patriotism, and a whole list of other things, but the bottom line is this. Antiquated systems hold on to antiquated ideals. Corrupt systems grasp on to corrupt ideals, and the system that we have now in the United States and a majority of the "free" world has been antiquated and corrupt since the Romans first developed it. Their down fall was also the balancing of an empire that had become to large, to corrupt, to war-like, to destructive, and to complacent. Have we learned nothing from the past, are these lessons lost on blind eyes and deaf ears? Oh, I forgot the education system has been underfunded since the end of the '60's.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jun 20, 2006 17:11:50 GMT -5
Keep the population uneducated and under the thumb and they can be bent at will.. Feed the children what you want them to beleive and learn and you have a controlled society. Thats why they first decided to burn the freethinkers at the stake, and make freethinkers branded so we are now straight jacket material to be feared! Free thinkers are now sent away or disappear this is keeping the population under control! If they have a controlled population they can have as many Wars as they like, if they manipulate with the money strings it gives the incentive for the masses to do as they are told and take on board any ideas of the governing peoples as their own... I see the world like a childrens punch and judy puppet show, with the government holding the strings. Now youv'e got me ranting Bezjak.. Good to get it off the chest though .
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Post by osiris on Jun 20, 2006 20:03:20 GMT -5
Ya but we are the infidel! Hell if ilived over seas and know what i do now id hate us too. Who the f*c$ do we think we are? trying to sound like the savior and all we really want is the world. sending 18 and 19 year old men to die for a totally bs lie. so what if saddam killed his own people so does africa and about a zillion other countries. Are we over there no? It was an excuse. I really think we are stuck with who is in power until the end at this point. But than we will see how important money is...lolowhahaha... I hope im sitting in the front row when its realized that money no longer has any value except to keep my fire burning at night.DB Nope there are a few that are not puppets...hehe but yes you are so exact. everything is comeing around.. Corporations are getting sooo huge and religion is going to have an explosive reaction to everything soon i believe. But once you are free from ego or at least see it for what it is you are free from the gov't theres nothing they can do. hehe
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Post by Dancing Bear on Jun 21, 2006 5:08:22 GMT -5
I think you have said it well Osiris.. I totally agree! DB Nope there are a few that are not puppets... LOL!! Totally agree here too! it is the freethinkers that are not the puppets and it just so happens majority of the free thinkers are the type of people that join up in these forums.
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Post by bezjak on Jun 21, 2006 11:13:33 GMT -5
No, those who order the soldiers to fight are the infidels, those who twist religion for personal/political gain are the infidels, those who produce weapons that maim and kill for profit are the infidels. Those who have crippled our education system are the infidels, those who perpetuate hate and distrust are the infidels. Those who have lied to keep power are the infidels, those who hoard wealth are infidels. Suppressors of truth are infidels, I could go on but I'm sure you get the picture. These are the ones who should be hated, these are the ones who should be jailed. These are the one who are forever damned to the pits of "hades". And when I go to the other side these are the ones who will feel not only my wrath, but the wrath of all enlightened beings.
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Post by osiris on Jun 21, 2006 13:50:46 GMT -5
Sounds like the same people to me man. With maybe the exception of adding some secret societies to that list.
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Post by bezjak on Jun 21, 2006 15:21:40 GMT -5
No, need to be specific with the names of the enemies of peace and understanding. Need you know the name of the viper who poisons you, or the virus that infects you? Knowing that once bitten or infected only the cure can save you. It doesn't matter that G.W.Bush, Tony Blair, etc. is his name....what do we do with snakes that strike? Or should we do with them?
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Post by osiris on Jun 24, 2006 17:53:59 GMT -5
what id like to do and what i will do are two differant things man. But i have actually decided that at this point there is to much to do and worrying about these people only slows me down. As long as it does not affect my family and friends im done with worrying.Besides everyone still has to stand before the one no matter who they are.
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