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Post by Dancing Bear on Nov 3, 2006 4:10:50 GMT -5
I am really curious about this subject of Ghosts, Spirit energy etc.., Seeing we are all from very different backgrounds and belief systems, Do we all have a common belief in Ghosts ? Some have had first hand experiences, some havent and yet still beleive.. Is this belief instilled as a child with stories of the boogy man or has it always been very real to us... Or Not as some do not beleive they exist at all in which i find interesting on its own and would love to know why. I am curious to hear your say, you may just vote and stay anonymous if you like, but i have always loved a good ghost story so please do share because i do not think i am alone, with loving a good ghost story . Also in the Paranormal Room Philc has just started up a thread called My Paranormal experiences in which is a fasinating read go have a look .lilacsky.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=para&action=display&thread=1162308938&page=1Or is it all just childrens stories
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Post by existenceisadream on Nov 4, 2006 1:31:35 GMT -5
I've had first hand experience with my grandma. I actually was the one to find her dead (I have this posted somewhere). But basically in the following days after her death she did things to make me realize she was still lurking. I never actually saw her ghost though. But even still her spirit or whatever you want to call it was still lurking in the house (that she lived in for most of her life)and I was all too aware of it. Plus I know from others accounts who lived there after me that they were sure the house was haunted and would describe to me the things that would go on there.
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Post by abbarabidar on Nov 4, 2006 4:25:15 GMT -5
prolly nuttin, but as I was trying to take a pic of the moon, I saw a strange light in the display screen. When I looked into the sky I saw nothing at all. I felt that 'something' was there, and intended to capture it with my camera. I don't know what it is, but I think it's pretty cool.
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Post by elvinlady on Nov 4, 2006 12:01:14 GMT -5
My kids and I have been to different graveyards that are haunted and have most definitely had experiences. I have never seen one but I have definitely felt their presence. We have taken pictures and had some weird stuff turn up in the pictures.
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Post by abbarabidar on Nov 4, 2006 14:39:00 GMT -5
who would wanna hang around a cemetary anyways? Hangin around where your dead body is buried! yuck. I know I wouldn't. Doesnt make much sense to me, much betta things to do elsewhere I would tink. Makes more sense to me that 'ghosts' wouldnt know they are dead, kinda like keep on 'alivin' in a different 'plane', like a dream plane or sumptin over lappin and gettin mixed through the 'viels' of the moment and of time. bwa-ha-ha. Maybe we are all ghosts, and the ghosts we see that seemingly 'interact' with 'people' think that we are ghosts. Now balls of light n such, I would think of as different entities, or simply projected awareness or whatever, as opposed to ghosties. hmm but then on the other hand, maybe the 'ghosts' show up in cemeteries simply because that is where people intend them to be, like manifest them there. I know in Florinda's book (i think was her's) on sorcery, they believe it is the personal power of the person, their own power of belief that manifests it's own being, like a projected double, and they simply do not realise that 'it' is in their control, their own energy.. That is what I see. A matter of belief and perception, of knowing.
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Post by crazycat on Nov 4, 2006 23:10:21 GMT -5
I could not tell you if what I experienced was a ghost or some kind of being who could materialize and be there one second and then the next second de-materialize with the blink of an eye. I had experienced it several times and the being appeared just as solid as I was. My sister and I saw one together one night. The ghost of my dead sister appeared to this same sister and her husband at the same time one night, also. When my parents moved from our home and other people moved in, the house never stayed rented for long and there was a lot of talk around town about it being haunted. The way other people described the ghost it fit my sister's description.
We felt and experienced the seeing of ghost many times living there. I think maybe the back bedroom closet could have been a vortex. This was my brothers room. This closet was the one which led up into the attic. My brother said he use to lay there at night and see them come down and then later go back up.
We also had a about a 20 foot or so circle in a clearing in the woods and nothing would grow very tall within that circle and what did try to grow there it was a very light yellowish green and was stunted in growth. Like there was a few trees trying to grow there, but they never grew no more than about two foot tall. We called it out magic fairy circle. It was there for many years staying the same. Probably a good 10 years...it could still be there for all I know. I never went back to see, but the last I heard, the people who own the land now had clear the whole woods out and made a field there instead.
That's about it for me. Nothing really spooky scarey, just pranky stuff would happen.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention something. I was telling my mother about the circle in the woods and asked her if she had ever seen it. The was just this year and she told me no, but said one night when she was doing the dishes the whole woods in that direction lit up very bright. When she told my dad about it, he just dismissed it as probably her seeing a car's headlights through the woods, but she said she knew it wasn't a car, but didn't say anything else about it. Man... if it had been me, I would have been out there the next day going over ever inch of those woods, but back then UFO's were not an every day word that people talked about. She just thought it may have been a meteorite, because it was around that same time a small meteorite did hit our house one night. I don't know what ever happened to that rock, but I wish I had it.
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Post by mary on Nov 5, 2006 0:02:37 GMT -5
I know in Florinda's book (i think was her's) on sorcery, they believe it is the personal power of the person, their own power of belief that manifests it's own being, like a projected double, and they simply do not realise that 'it' is in their control, their own energy.. That is what I see. A matter of belief and perception, of knowing. This is what I believe too, I think. I'm pretty sure I have seen this on a few occasions. A lady I used to know, used to be able to do this pretty well (accidentally). It was always weird to see her out walking around when I knew she was really at home in bed. But also, have seen 'ghosts' of recently deceased people I've known and long dead people I've never even met. Seems to me, the more receptive, open you are to the possibilities, or the more you believe, the more likely it is you will see something. It's pretty easy though, to just dismiss what you see as the workings of an overactive imagination.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Nov 5, 2006 8:37:28 GMT -5
i choose not sure yet becaue honestly i have never seen a ghost ,however i have felt intense energy around me many times in waking life..but that does not mean they are ghosts..lol it could be anything even the universe breathing.")
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Post by Dancing Bear on Nov 5, 2006 16:05:18 GMT -5
LOL! Fair enough Lilacsky.. That could be an absolute high possibility in a lot of cases
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Post by mandala on Nov 5, 2006 20:39:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure about ghosts. I've heard tales from reliable sources, including my sister, but don't have anything spectacular to report myself.
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Post by crazycat on Nov 5, 2006 23:00:12 GMT -5
I think a lot of what people see as ghost are only imprints left behind especially the see through type that doesn't seem to even know you are there. The ones that appear more solid and can interact are the spirit of a real being. Even people who are still alive can leave an imprint behind..like when they move to another home. I read about this happening in a webpage news article not so long ago. But then again, if the beings/spirits can appear as whatever it chooses, I guess they could have appeared as that couple. There is to many coulds or if ands about all this type of stuff.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Nov 5, 2006 23:35:08 GMT -5
Yeh Crazy Cat that is absolutely right! This is called residual energy, some people can pick up on this energy left hundreds of years ago, but the most common residual , majority of us feel is more recent. and yes it can be mistaken for ghosts.. but as you say there is a difference...
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Post by bezjak on Nov 6, 2006 11:06:06 GMT -5
Of course they do....I feel them with my "soul", don't you?
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Post by osiris on Nov 6, 2006 12:15:06 GMT -5
All the time. I want to see them. Recently i have had odd experiances with seeing things out of the corner of my eye. Not like the usual i mean rediculous amounts. Like last night driving home i saw what looked like the shadow of a human but it disapeared as soon as i brought more of my attention to it. I hope to make myself more sensitive to these souls.
As for the pictures i think the spot we can see is the assemblage point. It would make sense that the spot where all energy comes together would be able to be seen....Just my 2cents.
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Post by sxy on Nov 11, 2006 2:26:29 GMT -5
Hummm ....osiris ,
that is a good Idea I raise you to 20 STARS********************
~SXY~
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Post by sxy on Nov 11, 2006 2:53:29 GMT -5
I say yes !!! ,...or else I must be just crazy...!!! and that might be a good thing ,,, in this world..! I know that the many things I have seen have shaped the views I have of life and death. Ghosts do visit me in many ways , and over many years , I have seen and felt all the things others say they have witnessed.
One odd thing is a Ghost does not need to be dead , to be a ghost , but this is a story for another time,....
OK then ," I will just say that I was visited by a ghost from the future", of a person that was not yet dead, ...to give a message to a person before the death.This was not only freaky at the time, but odd and I still get confused if I think about it . I have had ghosts pass through my body .....cold....... also ,"seen-em" communicate to me during the day light, in Mirrors....., Many visits in dreams ,by people I know and don't know , and at times by groups of them ." All of them >>...((( dead ! ))) " The most scary thing is they have the power to visit you before you are ready to accept there existence ,....and I must say that it is mind altering to witness this, The first times were worst...
They also have the power to influence this material world ...
I trust they do not have power over us ,but I have posted about the one that visited me in the grocery store , He popped my plastic in the store , then I had a visit that week in my dreams where he confessed trying to scare me . The practical joker !!! that he was .When they pass through you a freezing effect is felt , and is lasting sometimes to the point that I need to have a hot shower as I have done to warm up . They have never passed through me during a dream state so I do not know if they do , I am guessing that they don't. We are on a similar plane in dream world , In my case they seem to be under oath not to inter fear with me and Wait for me to notice them before they communicate ,...lots of times I don't catch on to their passiveness and say to them "your dead what are you doing here !!!" and then they leave disappointed as if they originally had a reason but forgot it ,and then I realize, I should have asked them "what do you want to tell me" ...?... Two others that come to mind are; In one of my dream states; I was on my way to visit my grandmother at her old home , she answered the door and asked me in...
...I saw that she was using a computer with someone, I had never met her ,this computer took dimes to Run and I was asked if I had any to give her,they had not finnished and wanted to continue...,as I was hand in pocket, they said;" they had already found some", and I was wisked to the door to come back at a better time ,...? she was very into learning the computer ,...? How odd ...?
Before she died she would never have used a computer , her guest was a dark skinned woman ( ghost !) , she was tutoring the computer to my Grandmother . I wonder if I had entered a world other than this one ,continued or parallel world , but she was alive and well ! In yet another dream I was visited buy a man that had died in my town ... he would follow me around in my dreams... and Odd ,"he never road a bike" !... he followed me riding one when I was dreaming I was on a public bus ... He stopped following me after that .... Yes ghosts are real ...! They exist !!!~SXY~
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Post by ladybleu on Nov 13, 2006 14:50:31 GMT -5
When I was 11 we moved in with my Grandma and Grandpa, my mom had just passed away. After being in this house for a few months the toilet started flushing on its own. My Grandma threatened kids with a spanking if we didn't stop and we swore it wasn't us. On night Gramps stayed up and said it was true , it was not us kids it just happened. Got a plumber out but he said nothing was wrong. A while later (I can't remember how much time went by) The lights would turn on at night. Again Gramps stayed up cause he wanted to catch one of us kids but nope it would just happen and it was a different light sometimes. One day our dog was digging in the backyard and would back up and bark at the hole. I went over and saw this flat stone. My Grandma came and looked at it and she went white as a ghost. Pretty hard for a black woman. She called the city maintenance dept and they told us that our house and the neighbor's had been built on an old cemetary site. One of the headstones must have been missed but supposedly all the graves had been emptied and the occupants moved. Well we moved within a few weeks. All I thought about after I grew up was some old fart flushing the toilet and turning on lights and saying Hey maw, lookit here! ROFL. I thought it was neat but my family thought I was nuts.
When I was working on the road and staying in motels I stayed at one in Burns OR. This one particular time I stayed in room 33. It was mid summer so it was hot but this one area near the bed was always kinda cooler than the rest of the room. After I went to bed I was almost asleep when I felt a light touch on my cheek. I thought it was a moth or some sort of bug and brushed at my cheek but there was nothing there. I sighed and turned over and it happened again. Now I am wide awake and just waiting. Sure enough a touch as if a mother was brushing a childs cheek in tenderness happened again. I said aloud please go away, I need to sleep. It didn't happen again. But I stayed for a week and every night I had to ask it to leave me alone please. When I checked out I asked the lady at the desk who was also the owner if anyone had reported any strange goings on in that room. She gave me a look and said that I was the only one that had stayed for more than one night. No one else would stay again in that room and if they had to stay longer than a night they asked to be moved. I said ok but that there was nothing harmful there and I left. Any time after that when I stayed in Burns she gave me that room and I had no problems. I have had other encounters especially at work where elderly die all the time. Some of the other employees accept the fact that there are spirits and some are bothered. If one is being especially pesky or bothersome I ask that they at least not bother the sensitive workers. It seems to work out.
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Post by Dancing Bear on Nov 13, 2006 17:11:08 GMT -5
Absolutely fasinating experiences. A caress on my cheek would have freaked me a bit Lady Bleu, did you ever ask it who it was or wanted??
I had one trying to get my attention the other night, tugging at my hair while sitting at the computer, It really freaked me at first , coz it was totally unexpected,So I swore at it.. I know when they are around but i did not expect it to pull on my hair.. I did asked not to do that again.. hasnt happened since, mind you it was only a week ago.. waiting game now LOL!
Last night i had our Babba (Ukraine for Grandma) visit me ( well it was early this morning I was Lucid) She came in the form of a child, I have heard of this before but never experienced it before, spirit coming in a different form or age than when they passed over... She was roughly about 4-5 years old and yet again I seem to see spirit with big black pearls for eyes, I wasnt frightened as she was so beautiful, I saw that she was still getting help, she was being carried by her Angel Guide, She had a horrific life going through famine in which tens of thousands of people died in Ukraine, a prisoner of World War ll at age 18, captured by the Germans became forced labour in germany, then finally ending up in a camp in Italy at the end of the war. Family disapeared (she found a couple many years later) She married A Tyrant, who abused and bashed her, raising 5 children virtually on her own, Moved to Australia, finally getting a little peace when she was in her 70's, getting a unit on her own and living out the last days in peace with those who love her around her. An absolutely amazing woman..passing over about age 80, 2 years ago.. Just seeing her still getting help really amazed me, She must not be ready to go it alone just yet, I am grateful i saw her though and feel privledged she came to me to send her Love to her grandson (my Husband)
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Post by Lady_Butterfly on Nov 14, 2006 13:47:58 GMT -5
Wow, Lady and DB, it sounds like you've had some interesting experiences with spirits from the other side. Especially if they were loved ones who have passed away. Maybe in some way they are looking after you while you're still on earth. I guess if I'm lucky, I'd meet one someday, but I wouldn't want to meet a bad presence. Take care! Kronic
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Post by elvinlady on Nov 14, 2006 15:10:14 GMT -5
my experience was in a cemetary. my kids and I had gone to this one cemetary that is haunted and I had just entered it. I got so cold, it was a beautiful summer night, my teeth started chattering and I was freezing. I felt so sad and lost. So alone I wanted to cry. I was just barely in the cemetary and I started going around in circles because I couldn't find my way out. I kept calling to my kids to come get me that I was lost and couldn't get out. They literally had to come and take my by the arm and lead me out because I couldn't get out. I just kept walking in a circle. The other time was in a different cemetary and I just got so cold in this one spot that I felt like I was freezing. A friend that was with us came over and wrapped her arms around me and said I was as cold as ice. One of them took a picture of the spot just before I entered it and when we developed the picture there was some kind of hazy spot on it right where I was standing.
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