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Post by crazycat on Oct 18, 2005 0:24:47 GMT -5
Hi again andin, I am interested in dream interpretation too and like to give it a try sometimes. About reading Carlos 's books, I don't think staring out with the Art of Dreaming is the best one to start with. I read his first book before getting into this dream project and with out reading that I one I would really be lost here. His first one is "The Teachings of Don Juan:A yaqui Way of Knowledge" I read it in August, waiting for everyone who was going to take part in this project to get their books. It was interesting and didn't take long to read.
Hello Sxy, thanks for those websites. I hope you have been doing great. You aren't still working on that deck are you?
I kind of identified with this: Psychoanalytically, shoes in our dreams indicate steps to be taken and those already taken in our life. They portray our ability to be in touch with the reality of our life.
I really liked this one: Shabby or worn shoes are an omen of success. They were all worn out shoes and I was turning them into something else. Hehe! ;D
Thanks guys!
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Post by nani on Oct 18, 2005 15:46:23 GMT -5
hey Linda, just a short hello from me.. oh heck.. I`ve lost several days through that heckn`crash lol, have to catch up on you guys, looking forward to the following days with More time, less work and stable net-connection yeah, seeya soon. And yeahs magic woman: you`ve turned "worn out" into something "shining" again - the greatest active magic in this dreamland called earth, huh! lgn
btw: did someone hear of our fellow Incubus?
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Post by crazycat on Oct 18, 2005 23:56:28 GMT -5
Hope you get your PC fix soon, Nani.
I don't know what's happened with Incubus either. Everyone is getting lost in dreamland. Hehe! All these missing people with return, surely. Soon.
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Post by sxy on Oct 19, 2005 1:27:34 GMT -5
Funny but true,
I know >>>>I really liked this one too :
Hee hee! Glad to pass it along...lol. ;D
~SXY~
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Post by crazycat on Oct 22, 2005 2:32:03 GMT -5
Oct. 21
I had a dream of being in the olden days. I am married to the same person I am now married to. We lived in a log cabin, very primitive. My husband had asked me to clean his canteen because he was going to be needing it that next morning. I had gone to sleep and woke up later in the night and remembered that I had not cleaned the canteen. So I got up very silently, so as not to wake my husband and went to clean the canteen. When I got to the shelf where it was located our dog began to bark. At first I thought it was barking because he heard me inside, but then I heard my husband getting on to the dog and he told it to hush up. For some reason my husband was out on the porch. I went over to the window to see what he was doing out there in the middle of the night and the dog began to bark again and it made my husband lose his temper and he went over and kicked the dog and told it to shut up again. About that time something grabbed his leg and jerked him off the porch. It was a large bear and the bear tore him all to pieces. The dream ended instantly there. I did not have time to scream or feel anything about what took place, I didn't wake up after having that dream. It's hard to believe that I didn't wake up after such a nightmarish dream. I don't know if I was lucid in that dream, I don't think I was. I don't usually remember non lucid dreams. I didn't even remember dreaming it until I read Nani's post where she said something about an animal bite.
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Post by nani on Oct 23, 2005 17:22:51 GMT -5
hi again, if I would have that dream I would think that these are my power-animals, the dog and the bear, both very powerful ally. And/or two inner-parts of myself within. The dog is trusty and adapted. The bear rather wild and independent. Both are great defenders, but did you ever see a mother-bear reacting when her baby-bear is in danger.. then its like an earth-quake.. better never challenge a bear.. thats real power.. :-) these are just for the moment my spontaneous thoughts.. Would be interesting to know what your book says, you`ll tell me/us please?! lgn
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Post by crazycat on Oct 24, 2005 0:44:16 GMT -5
Okey, dokey.
Dog: Loyalty/fidelity, especially to your own values/ intentions; therefore, your ability to go forward in the world from a strong internal base. Dogs guard treasure, so their appearance may indicate a treasure(skill,knowledge) you've ignored/forgotten that needs to be activated, or has the potential to be activated. Is there some thing happening in your waking life that you need to "guard against". Is something threatening you, and you are , or need to be "guarding your territory". If the dog is a pet, it may represent a need/wish for love; caring; pampering.
In mythology, dogs are often guides into another world, therefore they are related to birth/death.
In alchemy the dog was associated with the primal material and ,therefore, was essential to transformation.
Bear: Because they hibernate, bears can symbolize cycles; birth/death/awakening; power or overpowering ("big as abear"); your own cyclic activity/ability. Is it time for you to awaken into activity, or to hibernate and renew your energy?
I think my bear diffinately awakened into activity. LOL!
Mythologically, bears represent mothering--the archetype of the Great Bear. In Greek mythology the bear is associated with goddess of the moon and woods (fertility and the unconscious).
What "bearish" aspect of yourself do you need to recognize?As a pun, it can refer to something that is "hard to bear"; an overbearing person; a need to bare yourself (exposure) or your soul (truth/lies/trust-distrust issues?); having a difficult time "getting your bearings" (need for a sense of direction/guidence.)
Husband: If a woman, dreaming of your own husband may relate to issues you're unsatisfied within your relationship. Consider how each of you behaves in the dream for clues as to the roles each may be playing that enhances/interferes with trust/closeness. Dream: I was up in the middle of the night trying to do a chore I had forgotten and did not want him to know that and he was up, out on the porch helping the dog guard..... or what? He did not treat the poor dog very well. I felt anger at the way he treated our dog. I didn't have time to feel any emotion when he got ripped apart by the bear. I woke up immediately maybe from shock. That part was very grusome.
Waking life scene: I do feel some anger in me that he did not step in and "guard and protect" after my daughter's vulgar attack, just because I did not or rather could not do what she wanted. Of course, she made the attack about her feelings of being slighted by my not being a good enough mom for her. She attacks me, but I'm the one who is suppose to apolize because my motherly duties were lacking as far as she was concerned. And instead of him getting on to her and putting her in her place , he is allowing her to use him to hurt me even more. If that all makes sense to you. It does to me. Hehe.
A husband can be a reflection of your animus; suggest a need to activite/acknowledge within yourself characteristics you associate with a husband (a need for balance?)
So, after reading all that could you sum up what my dream possibly means? What do you think?
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Post by nani on Oct 24, 2005 3:54:31 GMT -5
this book really is so amazing great, and what you`ve summed up yourself does fit exactly, and I have seen it this way too.. a kind of that if he doesnt want to listen to truth (the need and right to be guarded) in a smooth way (dog) then there is needed a stronger force (bear) to make this clear....and so many very interesting coherences..have to get into it.. now first have to get my car repaired and get to work.. come back later, lgn
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Post by nani on Oct 24, 2005 11:09:59 GMT -5
your dream.. I think it doesnt need any further sum-up.. the book-explanations and what your`saying bout waking life situation just fits and seems to mirror each other in a perfect amazing way. Like I`ve felt/mentioned before and like the book-interpretation could be understood your dream so to say Does for you on a subconscious level what you Dont do on a real-plane.. I mean of course not, cause you are no bear LOL, but the sub uses this exaggeration to demonstrate the true effect and feeling you got (refering to the whole daughter-husband-you- story). And also the sub. shows through its strong exaggeration how important this process/conflict is for you. I think that this dream shows that you have deeply suppresed your disppointment about your husband, maybe because you fear that it would become worse if you would keep on expressing to him that you are still disappointed. About the Animus, like the book said, the Animus is our inner counterpart, our inner-malepart, like our husband/partner reflects our inner male-side, But almost in contrary to what we could conclude from the symbolically dream-message (namely that he should change his attitude) we also can say, that we have to develop/change our own inner male part, meaning - what we do expect from the other (in this case husband) we should look and search within if we can find any other case where this exact same attitude (like expected from husband) is missing and would be appropriate to be developped by us ourself. This now is not pure dream-psychology but working with the same kind of allegory, which means that any person (we meet in life) outside of us only is a mirror of an aspect of inside of us. And if this outside-person misses to do something we could search inside if we miss to do something. This what we could find insidely relating to, doesnt have to be related to the obvious real-problem-case at all. It even can be refering to something very different. Sorry I always need so many words to explain a single thing, if I could express me well at all. Back to the dream. So your husband in the dream is not only your husband, I mean he also just symbolises your own inner "man", the part within you, who goes straight and active onto something (in opposite to female-feeling/hesitating attitudes). So for me this dream mirrors at least 2 things: first your suppressed disappointment (still) and second your inner demand to act more male (direct/consequent/un-sentimental/warrior-like, courageous) yourself.
Though funnily this (so called male attitudes) is in fact what I exactly perceived and heard in your last post (in my thread)!!!
Hey just some thoughts from me, I truly dont claim to know, lgn
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Post by crazycat on Oct 24, 2005 15:04:15 GMT -5
Though funnily this (so called male attitudes) is in fact what I exactly perceived and heard in your last post (in my thread)!!!
I guess that part of me has been activated. hmmm....
Thanks Nani, your reply makes total sense. Thanks for clarifying some of that.
When I finally went to bed I sleep hard for a couple of hours and then woke back up. When I laid back down I immediately began seeeing dream fragments of previous dreams that I did not remember after waking. One was like something droping into the water and making perfect round ripples. I think this scene is a key to remembering that dream and another has something to do about the chakras. Maybe the same dream. Then I went on to dreaming a dream that I have dreamed before, but I was to tired to wake up at the end so I could remember it. Maybe I'll dream it again some night. Come to think of it, I think you were in one of them. Maybe, I'll get recall on them all soon. I wish.
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Post by nani on Oct 24, 2005 18:11:52 GMT -5
off topic: I just have copied and posted your wonderful symbol-description for snakes into my reply to Andin, cause she has had a snake dream too, she`ll appreciate that surely the same as me, cause thats really insightful..
Linda, wish you a wonderful night, full of comfortable and enriching sleep, with marvellous dreams and experiences, lgn
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Post by crazycat on Oct 31, 2005 0:51:47 GMT -5
I was looking up at the sky and there was these six white tube looking things made of cloud substance but only not breaking apart like clouds do. They were spread out like a fan, coming together at the horizon.This was from the dream I had on sept 18. The following is a picture that looks alot like my dream tube clouds looked like. www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/fire.htmlI have been having a lot of dreams, but I can seem to become lucid in them and I am not remembering any of them.
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Post by nani on Nov 1, 2005 17:29:52 GMT -5
wow that is an amazing picture and of course that was an impressing dream of yours, I remember well, that was when I had my electricity-plan on the sky dream too. Besides our dreams, how is life Linda? lgn
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Post by crazycat on Nov 2, 2005 13:16:15 GMT -5
Hi Nani, You probably would not want to hear. I've been fighting the feelings of depression trying to creep back in. It's gettint close to Thanksgiving and I don't know what I'm suppose to do. I usually have Thanksgiving at my house and I guess I still will, but It looks like we won't be a whole family this year. I had already packed up most of the kitchen stuff, so I guess we will have to make do with what I've left unpacked.
James bought up moving again this week. I feel like am being pulled apart and it's just too much to deal with. He showed me a picture of a house from the newspaper he is interested in. It was a god awulful looking house out in the middle of a field with no trees or plants. I'm really going to be draging butt on this one, in fact I' m praying with all my heart that someome buys it this week. ;D
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Post by nani on Nov 4, 2005 7:34:09 GMT -5
sorry for my late reply.. and Linda Im deeply interested in Anything which is happening to you, not only the so called sunshine.. I have pm you, lgn
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Post by crazycat on Nov 7, 2005 14:03:48 GMT -5
Nov. 7th
I finally was able to remember a dream again. I went to bed after reading the 12th chapter. Reading that chapter inspired me to have this dream.
I was dreaming that I was sleeping and became aware that I was dreaming in this dream character me's dream. I was in these woods and I came upon a young dark haired girl who was setting under a tree and was crying in agony and I went over and sat down and put my arms around her and was consoling her. (In this dream I was this sisters older sister but didn't realize it until later on.) With out saying a word I knew that she was crying because she had just had a baby and her parents made her give it up for adoption. I woke up from that dream and later on that day was walking along the road with my younger sister (who is my younger sister in real life) and I was telling her about the dream I had the night before about the girl in the woods. We were walking home from (I don't know where) and we continued talking about what my dream could have meant. The scene changes to later that day and we are setting around the table eating our evening meal. This table was like the table my family now had when we were growing up. And the family was a lot like my family in real now. One of the differences was that when I was growing up we all had our places at the table and that is where we sat every meal. I think we were all out of place to make me realize I was dreaming and I did become lucid at that point. I was setting next to my older sister and I was telling her about my dream, (actually the whole family was hearing it, but I was mainly telling it to her to see if she could help me know what it meant). She thought a while and said she did not know what it could mean. We all went back to eating silently and then after a while I remembered a past life event that was exactly like my dream. I said to my younger sister who was setting across from the table, "don't you remember in that other life time about that happening." Then for some reason she remembered. I asked my older sister if she remembered too and she said no and then she said I have this technique I do. I have two imaginery bins, I put all my good memories in one bin and all my bad memories in the other one and the ones in the bad memory bin, I don't allow myself to remember those. The whole family thought that was funny and we all laughed and that is when I woke up. When I remembered the dream within my dream was a past life event, that is when I realized I was the dark haired girl's older sister in that lifetime. The dark hair girl was my sister in this lifetime who died last year, but that didn't happen to her in this lifetime and in this lifetime she is an older sister.
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Post by nani on Nov 10, 2005 10:14:53 GMT -5
this is such an amazing dream, lucie, past-life what more thing whooooo.. and I feel as if this: "she said I have this technique I do. I have two imaginery bins, I put all my good memories in one bin and all my bad memories in the other one and the ones in the bad memory bin, I don't allow myself to remember those." is a very important message, or tool, or divine trick maybe, which is passed to you, maybe.. but anyhow, super cool dream, wow! I finished chapter 11 and will start chap 12 on sunday - so I hope that i`ll get such dreams too yeah. And at the 20th of November we are supposed to be ready with reading - wow 13 weeks, how fast that went. Linda best greetings to you, and to all of you too. lgn
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Post by crazycat on Nov 10, 2005 13:12:22 GMT -5
Thanks Nani, I did think it was something to be aware of my dream self dreaming and to be able to remember what the dream self dreamed. Hehe.
I don't know if I explained it very well. I didn't just go from one dream to the other. I was aware of being in a dream while the dream self was dreaming. I don't know if that make any sense or not.
Nani, I am going to send you a PM, so check your mail.
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