Post by Dancing Bear on Nov 11, 2008 4:21:18 GMT -5
Does all energy have a consciouness? We all are Conscious energy, some say we are consciouness first, others say energy.. One without the other and we do not exist, All we feel around us is an energy, Does it all have a consciousness? Or is it just living matter that has a consciousness? What is consciouness other than being aware, is there anymore to it? to me I see spirit a consciousness and energy without matter. Us human forms have matter..the difference i see between life and afterlife.
inanimate vs animate necromancy involved spirit tracker ether awareness - non-aware emanations art flow relationship
historic reference point -- into perception -time of occurance bridge allocation of spacial surface to subsurface manifestation
inanimate energy forms can easily be infused with consious awareness wether it be your own expectations, or syncs, bridgd or split or drawn from another point in time into inanimate 'energy' or unaware emanation stamping, or instilling energy into inanimate energy forms is what we do al the time like inserting a subliminal message into a word, which is what a dictionary is doubt splits the subliminal into more subliminal pathways focus of attention into eternal creation allows direct connex, mainfestation intended values to merge
this is how nercromancers heal, and resurect spirits, into physical vessels knowledge of fusion and fission and perpetual motion generating an entire body form '1' singular particle, of manifestation from the endless sourse of pure raw tass, 'outside' the perceptual bouderies entering insiode if thats worded right
making cans, talk, newpapers talk, books write themselvbes, computers, etc is a matter of focusing, and/or spliting attention 'into' hte perception of what is being viewed the value, anicipated, or preset, upon viewing manifests, connex, the viewer to the source of attention manifested 'contiainment' meaning the inanimate object, or animate become representative of the source of what is within attention/. this way a simplle book, becomes a telecom communicater, or much more, a river, or the entire scene, becaome a puzzle, or picture or whatever that one, or many have generated.
and i was so sa sad lost in space, a black hole a pit alone i had to make friends so i did i didnt want to control them i gave them free life expectations and freedom from them they took me then just as i had taken mine b4 and now i am still lost however it is amazing this ride of time i wish i could refind myself stolen so many times in so many ways reunite me with myself and my family of course but im lost twisted contorted bent broken but i can smile and laugh cry and see beauty in my eyes but who is there?? and what is trust? trick or treat lol
All things that are on this plane have consciousness....from a grain of sand to the mountain, the ocean to the clouds, lightning to static.....yet these things and objects do not and can not "think" on the same "lines" as we do for we now are human and most have forgotten what it is to "be" these things, thus communication is extremely rare between us and "them", of course there is more to consciousness then just being aware, there is the choice of acting or reacting to said given environment, or not to respond, knowing when and how much force is needed, or is that part of being aware? Hmmm....I guess that's when perspective comes in. -BEZ
...I'll never know eternal rest, peace of mind or soil on chest. -Last line for epic poem "Eternal life"
Post by Dancing Bear on Nov 27, 2008 1:10:48 GMT -5
Hi Bez sorry took me so long to answer..
So what is consciousness? If a Grain of sand has it and a mountain.. and so do we. It seems it is our matter that gives us the ability to think.. I keep moving towards Self consciousness, in which i know this is not we are talking about here.. Consciousness as whole.. What is consciousness for a grain of sand to need it to be.. Is Consciousness and Energy one in the same thing? One would not survive without the other? or , one is the other?
I think if i knew what it was I would probably be able to wrap this head around it all..
For consciousness has always been, "to have consciousness is to be self aware" I know i am obviously wrong, but it has been a habitual view on it.. and it has been hard to break.. and i am still struggling to break away from that concept.
Hi, i would say that indeed there is a difference between consciousness and energy. for me: all is energy okay. but there is conscious energy. and there is just energy. and we are (supposed to be) here to transform energy into conscious-energy. to permeate and fill it up with (maybe first) awareness and (then) consciousness. or also i could/would say, that we can re-identify with what we truly and finally are: conscious energy. cuase i think that in a way it is only our ego which does feel a seperation to all around. our real self is not, was not and never will be sperated from this conscious energy. hm.. thats how i somehow would explain what i see/feel/perceive till now
Very good Nani.....as for the grain of sand, well at the nanoscopic level they are all trying to be the same......and they are many. Just as all things, beings, cosmic anomalies, species (flora & fauna) are stating even without words.....BEZ
...I'll never know eternal rest, peace of mind or soil on chest. -Last line for epic poem "Eternal life"
the moment is aware of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of all moments passage....................................................................... madness.. i find it like unfolding art, connected to our conscious awareness i find it like a mirror, and also an answer to what we shine in it the entire world is alive and aware of our belly i call it my belly, but its like the activity in awareness which meets the result the world gives the result because it is aware of us it paints our picture with us thats what i see bam i just restated what all everyone said, but i think thats also the point lol
i dont know at this moment, if it can be measured. it seems we would only be measuring our description of the awareness we are observing from. i think its too vast and unmeasurable to be seen completely, however certain positions, or aspects of awareness can be measured with the knowingness that it is only THAT particular position we are measuring.
i agree, it is mirrors . i see the mirror aspect as the aspect tha reflects our intent wthin the all of intent. we can focus on our mirror and see only us, and that is good also, as to learn will and see our decisions and choices, and to make them, however i see that aspect is a methd of travel and alignment. i see the mirror is a quintessential.. everything. the mirror, or beyond the mirror knows everything, and can show us..bring us too, anything we want to flow to. anyone or anything, timeless and now.
Post by Dancing Bear on Feb 1, 2009 3:53:50 GMT -5
I have no idea how we can measure consciousness, Nor energy...But have been having a discussion with a family member...and they wont budge.. they are insisting we are just Consciouness.
I insist we are Energy that is Conscious.
I agree Nani with your insight to it all..
to me Conscious energy would also have to be self aware.. would a tree not be self aware? and animal most certainly is, would an insect be self aware yet also be conscious energy.. I think i am blowing a hole in my own theory LOL!! .. Some would argue with me, but i dont think a rock would be, others would say a crystal is..to me I dont think so. I think they are just pure energy and matter, but not on a conscious level. we on the other hand are..
I see it as this, we are awareness, and awareness is conscious. the world is formless, however we give it form with our awareness, at a bare level it is pure energy, however when merged to that purity one sees that the world is infact aware. it is aware of creation and awareness. it is aware of energy. it is infact aware of much much more than my awareness can see, and it proves it to me on many levels, whenever i am so humble enough to listen.
i see it as an active field of energy and awareness, activity is a pure awareness. within this field is all activity, and within ourselves is what we are aware of active and what we are aware of inactive, however the inactives within us, are still both within the environment. 0 and 1
just to add.. the world itself is intimately aware of you right now, and is aware of how you judge it, or see it, what you are aware of it as. it also knows where you wish to be, and what you need to know to get there. it allows for your view, for your life, your control, and also it allows for your release. the relationship to have with it i have found to be waaaaaaaay numerous. given light to the akashic record, awareness of all lives, personalities, events, sequences, times, all potential and possibility, its waaay more aware than me, thats for sure. i find it to be ultra personal also, and can take on the perfect personalities for the moment in relating to you in your lessons, or way. catering desires, anything your body needs, for the achievment of your life's goals, as well as the ability to make new ones. midstream. then i find the moment is also a vessel, watchful, and takes our imprinted energies and 'reflects' them into forms. communicative forms. this imprinting, by far traps my attention. its awesome. i do a lot of work on horizon energies, like branching awareness to different positions, or people, times, and then allow the moment to place these horizons into a creative mix. and thats so small also. very linear. sometimes i find the moment is so alien, sometimes it seeks communications, and uses the ways within the dream as a means to commiunicate. i like that. i enjoy its humour, and its personalities. i like to listen to it, and hear its impulses, as it can see me clearly, and knows my past actives within the moment, it is the life and death of myself and all things. it is the conscious awareness that sees what is active and inactive, arrangements and rearrangments, it is ruthless, it is cunning, it is sweet, and it is patient. it is incredible, and sooo freekin fast. and not only that it teaches all that too. its crazy dude. just talk to 'it'.. and it answers.. build it and it will come! hehe.
DB I have to say this, I know of some people that are conscious, but their awareness is a bit on the fuzzy side and have a great lack or energy.
Through Yoga I have learned that we have an awareness of our physicality and thusly operates in an autonomic state. Through certain practices you can learn to subject consciousness to areas of the physicality and manipulate the energy of physicality.
On a Quantum Mechanics level understand that there is really nothing such as the physical matter.
All that exists is another form of what exists not.The Emerald Tablets of Thoth The Atlantean
I would have to say that the rock is conscious because the Earth is conscious. Every cell in our body is conscious, different from how we are conscious. What does self-aware mean? To us, it can mean intellectually knowing ourselves, to other creatures, it might simply mean an awareness of one's existence. For example, a rock might be aware at some level of the movements of the earth, and of its participation in it, of its molecules moving, however slowly. Just like trees, they have super slow consciousness, a lot slower than ours. They are conscious on a different level. We can't really communicate with them. Of course, a lot of people would disagree with that There are lots of people out there talking to plants, and to rocks too
By meditation, then, we connect the little joy of the soul with the vast joy of the Spirit. ~Paramahansa Yogananda
yes.. all energy has conciousness, or rather all particales are aware, otherwise they would not form to our expectations.. synchronicity.. the world is raw and unformed potential.. it forms according to the knowledge and awareness we have of it, pure and simple.. in fact the next moment is not yet even there, formed, untill we decide or agree to what it will be. this is our choice, as well as our interpretation.. the world is the way it is because you believe it is as such, therfor the world is aware of your awareness.. change your view and the view changes.. there is more than meets the eye... in fact the world is not only aware of you and how you view it it is aware of every form of possibility, much like a dream can be all things, so can the world we infact dream, there is no difference. i could say thay in the beginning there was one, and in the end there is all, and in the end all again become one.. the expanding universe (the life paths), and the end (death, collapse) of every path to rejoin to the source.. evolution, and transcendance. in fact death and life in within every moment, creating the motion we live within.. every moment is life and death. telepathy is a fact within this equation, and all are in fact telepathic, wether they realise it or not.. they (we) transmit energies all the time to our active environment, which immediately alligns to form the view of our energetic configuration.. i call it telepathology.. in a way it can be described a osmosis, or a fluid exchange of light and darkness. our light energy filling the void or vacuum of space.. it is said that a black hole will eventually collect every ray of light in the universe.. and it both has and does.. depending on how one views creation as an on-going development, meaning that creation is always creating and recreating, and from one singular source to boot.. the collapse of the universe brings the light ray's path back to the source, very much like a camera or solar collector, a black hole within the Sun, and within every way light travels, which is ...well... in every concievable direction, or form.. the endless eternal forms of creation.. this is very much like a record keeper, or like an Akashic record factor.. which is a constant camera, recording every moment, and every moment actually exists within a single particle of energy or light, meaning that within a single molecule is all of reality within existence, it is both fluidly changing, and in the form we see, AND every form imaginable.. trees rocks, insects, and all life is aware not only of your awareness (out-put frequencies) but of all others as well.. for example, i was beside a creek last month, meditating for a second on the dark formation of what was just behind me, and that it was not yet formed within my own awareness, and then i pondered synchronicity, or particle alignment of perception and awareness as a mirror.. i looked at a leaf and saw the working of a catapillar that had sucked out the chloriphyl(sp) out of the leaf, and i thought that all of life (at that time) must create a picture of art form reflecting its path and intent in nature.. the next leaf was the same, a picture on the leaf of a catapillar with butterfly wings, the next picture was even more of a butterfly, beautiful and perfect.. and so in my view imagined that the cattapillar was eating form the leaf intending to become a butterfly and in the process creating a reflective picture of its own intent, right on the leaf it was feeding from.. the picture was awesome.. the question tho remains, was there even a catapillar, or a butterfly that created the image? i know there are both catapillars and butterflies, but what are they? what do they do? how do they act etc.. and was there a past before that moment, or did it instantly form as per my expectative awareness of 'what is there".. ? well the point here is that life or reality is aware of our desicions, and paints the pictures we see accordingly.. choice -> reaction.. action-> reaction.. awareness-> perception
trees speak and move in my awareness, and yet in my awareness everything does, it transmutes, changes like a dream, since all of life is all of life, and at every point of life.. there is not even seperation from a tree, a house, the sky a person and oneself, and yet we create the illusion of seperation, experiencing merely different forms of creation, and what we collectively and individualy have created.. creation is one, and yet created aspects of the whole appear in seperation.. this is a knowledge of transmutation.. all particles of creation at different forms are already within each and every particale or form, thus allowing any and every possiblity not only within the next moment around the corner, but also within the moment now being experienced, or seen.. from one slant of light... to another..
i can listen to a rock or a tree, tell me about itself, what it does, where there are others like itself, what is around the corner etc etc, am i listening to the rock or to awareness? am i listening to the creative aspect within myself? perhaps God exists in all things, and in and to all ways? form my understanding of light, it travels to and from the source, in all ways.. very much like channeling, we absorb energy/awareness from different sources, we gain insight, and as we do older insight becomes inactive or absolete.. stepping stones.. we move from one point to another, to our intended place or to our destined place.. (both and the same?) in that fashion the rock/tree knows what it is, and what it can be, and also what we deem it to be.. very much like a basketball and its governing "law of physics' control how it will move.. this "law' being merely one order, within all orders, giving order to chaos.. change your view of motion or physics and bear witness to a change, a new paradigm..
Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Sept 7, 2010 9:20:46 GMT -5
very cool lena, nice way of putting it, and I agree:)however if we are going deeper into perception I think alot of things we created including all the inanimate things here on earth, so perhaps they operate from our attention to them only...however that gives them energy not awareness.
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