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Post by nani on Sept 4, 2005 18:31:56 GMT -5
3.9.05: before falling asleep I felt a strong sensation between my 7th and 8th chakra, but I havnt done any concentration on this. The I felt vibrations, but felt asleep. Dream: You all from the forum (or who take part at this workout) and I were working together on one dream only, from one person (not me but dont know whom)
4.9.05: again sensations like I`ve wanted to obe.. but did not Dream: Another friend of mine (Sax-player) was my boyfriend. We were in the mountains with a group of male people. Suddenly one after the other was disappeared and came back with an impressed face, my bf also, I got jelous and asked where they have been, what that was what is so impressing, then they told me about a woman and about sexual details I dont wonne get into and that I urgently should see that woman and also be with her. I wondered, but went to look for her, found her and was truly the same impressed like them, cause it was the most wonderful woman I`ve ever seen, she just was perfect, just perfect in everything, physically, mentally and emotionally, so of course I also felt pulled to her very much and .. so on lol.
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Post by nani on Sept 6, 2005 16:32:53 GMT -5
5.9.05: I`ve dreamed sooo much, but I got such a hard time lately to store that stuff.. grrr baaah..
Dream: 6.9.05: (read the first pages of the third chapter) Again Im at a a kind of school and again in the mountains. There is a "master/teacher" and with me are 2 more pupils. I dont agree on something that we should learn or a certain way we shall learn to understand that, and so Im getting a kind of rebellious against the learn-system and so Im trying quite hardheaded to find a new way. So then we are working with paintings, huge oil-paintings. My new technique is that I change my perception - and so the painting-content changes or even disappeares or is invisible for a while. While I/we are practising this there then appeares also Kalligraphy (chinese-character) on the painting and I love it very much. So finally I feel pleased and contentedly.
Thoughts: Yesterday when I`ve read about Incubus`s "non-fight" I thought that I would wish for myself too to be less rebellious and fighting, with me myself and with others.. so this theme came up I feel, maybe its still not that easy for me to give up fighting. But besides I maybe have to find my very own way always, which might be legitimately in a way, most important seems to be to change my perception! And as this was the first dream which (in my view) was in a certain coherence to what I`ve read, I do think that the book does truly help me! I dont know why, but I really have to dig like a miner to save some of my dreams, which usually is remembered very easily by me, I just wonder. But at least Im very happy that I could dream and remember something of what had to do with the book-content, the perception. Seems a little progress.
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Post by nani on Sept 8, 2005 16:45:58 GMT -5
6.9.05: dreamed a lot of what seemed important but couldnt store it.
7.9.05 Dream: (the first 2 dreams I only got fragmentarily, cause each time I thought, wow thats such an impressing dream so I`ll surely remember, but then didnt)
All 3 dreams had an apocalyptic feel and surounding.
1. my big brother Dirk digs out carotts of deep under the earth (3m), he had seed them before and it seems the only chance to get something to eat.
2. I try to help 2 handicapped ladies in a wheel chair. They have to get from one shore to the other, have to cross water. There is an electrical thing, like rails in the air where I try to hang their wheel-chairs, so they can get over the water/river/lake. Awake before its done or dont remember the outcome.
3. Its a kind of armageddon, me, our cats and some friends are living on a farm. There are other farms around, but the other people seem helpless too, not much left for living, so everyone is quite hostile and concentrated on surviving. Our black cat Pfidi once comes home with only 3 legs, when I look what had happened I see that someone has cut her leg of very precise with an ax. I "know" that someone starving has cut her leg and roast it like in a restaurant. I understand the people but Im sad and mad about this. Lateron Im with my 2 best friends (my ex-husband and my ex-fiance) and they melt to one person, they take the cat-thing quite easy. While we`re starting to eat something I see a lot of alcohol bottles on our table, I dont wonna drink but I mix it up with some food and then drink/eat it with a drinking straw. (I dont drink since 5 years)
Thoughts: I can not watch anymore TV-news about the catstrophe, especially now about the poor animals and the injustice that people first were not allowed to rescue their animals - I go nuts on that, so I quitt watching it, but maybe still its in my subconscious working. I saw a part of the film "taken" (Stephen King) and there a white man is threatening 2 black guys with an ax, because he doesnt want to have them in his bar. I think this explains a lot of my dreams, all current themes of "this reality". So I neither watch any films anymore..
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Post by nani on Sept 9, 2005 7:54:13 GMT -5
9.9.2005 Dream:
bananas and plums and roses..........thats all.. haha baaah
that slowly gets rediculous, cause I know this was a huge and long and intensively dream and when I awoke in between I again said, this Im never going to forget and yes I`ll write it down now ------- but I didnt do it. I really dont know if I should laugh or cry and get mad, Im really wondering. Tonight I´ll do a test ! I`ll take away all my remembrance-pressure and do instead give it up and over to my Higher Self. And I`ll do a meditation, anyways how late it will be, dot. !!
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Post by zayin on Sept 10, 2005 19:20:50 GMT -5
Hi nanni. Roses, I've read, are always a good sign. I've read that they can represent some of your greatest wishes to come true. I had a rose dream that was just amazing. Plums, and fruit seems like a very positive image as well, like rewards something.
I like to think that 'There's no way I'll forget this!!" then of course POOF gone! Jeesh.
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Post by nani on Sept 12, 2005 18:49:00 GMT -5
oh hey Incubus I didnt reply to your kind words of comfort lol, no honestly that did good to read it, after this period of frustration about little dream recall. Seems Im still in, but I guess I`ve just to wait it out..
so my little dream fragment from tonight (be aware how its truly getting less and less lol) 12.9.05: I am feeling insulted.. (that was it ! lol)
Thoughts: I guess I truly am (hahaha)
when you`re at the bottom it only can go up lalalalalala.. singing in the rain.. lala.. right? But its quite a wonderful diversification that everything on my reality-plane right now feels truly quite nice and gentle, almost really unusual harmonious.. oho oho
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Post by nani on Sept 13, 2005 11:55:17 GMT -5
Anorganic Beings – ancient Frankfurt
Before sleep: I`ve read the 3. chapter from beginning till end (content: anorganic beings, dependence, intention, to move forward big distances easy and directly just by intension) I`ve concentrated on my hands, strongly looking at the aura of my fingers in the half-dark, seeing light and dark shadows around my fingers. I intended to find my hands in my dream. Felt shifting and sinking downwards several times quite strong.
Dream: 14.9.05 (the beginning is blurr, then absolutely clear) Im in a wonderful natural grass- and tree landscape near a river, which seemed to be my hometown Frankfurt, but 500 years ago. A tall guy and his friend are with me (don’t know them or see any faces). I do get somehow totally high, maybe through some drugs, but no pills, liquid, smoke or anything and Im not sure if I got that from the guy. They are the same high and we`re moving through the beautiful landscape joyfully but slowly. We`re moving long distances just only by wish or intension and we make a kind of catch-game in: me moving forward and the tall guy moving after me and a kind of catch me, all in slow-motion, more floating. At one point the tall guy, who is very attractive, gentle and well behaved, is touching me in a sexual but very soft way and I immediately start to feel dissolving in an ecstatic way. I then start to “tell” him, that this is too much for me, too strong sensation and that he has to stop it for now. The guy stops but tells me that it would be such a pity because it would feel so good for him to touch me. Then we went on with our slow-motion-catch-game. The whole following dream-time I continuously had this intensive “body”- sensations (it was no fix form feeling) and it was more like the point where he had touched me would be active all the time, like a centre from where energy waves are streaming through my transparent-like body. And this centre of energy would move around within my body too, acitvating different areas to wave with joyful ecstatic feelings (a bit difficult to explain). Then I do realize that Im dressed in a beautiful long and wide mediaeval dress, Im young and pretty. Im still a kind of projecting to around 30m distance and he (them?) follows, then I realize that we did get near the first houses of the little town (it truly looked a bit like the old pictures of Frankfurt, btw this town was built around 800 ac), they were rather looking like old farm houses. Im thirsty and Im going to go inside into a kind of restaurant house to order and get something to drink. Suddenly the guy and his friend are disappeared, but instead of them there are now 2 girls or girlfriends, similar dressed like me, with me. (By this time my body-sensations also are fading, if I remember it right) Maybe the guys have changed into the 2 girls (not clear). So we get into the cellar of this restaurant and I realize that I have no money, except my beautiful dress I (during all the dream) don’t have anything else. While my girl friends are taking seat I (still standing in the entrance) shout to them: “one of you has to borrow me money for the drink” and in the same moment I think: oh god, don’t know if I ever may be able to pay that back. Then the chef of the house passes by our table, he is old and just thinking on business only – and Im longing for and thinking: Oh where is this wonderful guy with his friend, I would wish them so much to be here with me...................……………………………………………………………………………………………
I awoke with strong pulling sensations in my Solar Plexus and also still felt those waving feelings all over in and around my body. Nonetheless I felt very awake and clear in my mind, got up at 5am (while I went to sleep at 3 am) and wrote down and drank a tea, I felt very happy about my progress of finally again remembering my dreams and happy about such an impressing dream-experience or Dom , but most intensively I truly felt a kind of Complete.
Thoughts: The basic information of the 3. chapter appeared in my dream. Although I wasn’t lucid I do feel as this 2 guys were my own sort of anorganic beings. There was energy-exchange as well as a certain kind of arising dependency in feeling so good and complete. So finally I don’t know if this experience truly so to say `was playing on an independent reality-plane, with independent creatures`, or if that just was the `translation of the book-content onto my own inner psychic conditions`, like just mirroring my subconscious and real tendencies for addiction and like just a translation of the book-content into dreams. My final "not knowing if I can pay back my debt" also reminds me to the description of the give-and-take-relationship between humans and anorganic beings. While writing down I still felt my Solar Plexus pulling and felt something had changed. And when I now (back to normal) go again into the feel of the invisible point of my body, which started to move and wave after the guy has touched me, then it certainly does remind me to the assemblage-point D.J./CC is talking about, at least to how I would imagine it to feel it. One thing is sure: Im going on practising on my hand-awareness before sleep! Its funny because since month Im not able to decide one, only one clear thing to concentrate on before sleep, so I did lots of different things/exercises before sleep and therefore maybe I confused it all – till now HA !! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by zayin on Sept 13, 2005 18:59:45 GMT -5
Thats very interesting, so many things in there. Very hard to interpret. Since your feeling that it surrounds the book here is what get; It sounds like the 'man' did something to your energy body or moved your assemblage point. It seems like your soler plexus was opened up in the result, harmonizing yourself. Yet you ran away from him for a reason, and in the following images you felt 'thirsty' and couldn't pay for the 'drink', and even thought "oh god, don’t know if I ever may be able to pay that back". Maybe fearing some kind of debt or tie that can't be paid or broken. Since you seem to think of the inorganic beings maybe you feel fear of not returning what they want, or being unable to pay their total price. hmmm just a thought, it's hard to say though.
Congrats on your dream recall and energy progress!
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Post by nani on Sept 14, 2005 10:04:11 GMT -5
good inputs Incubus, thank you ! I think you are right on your statement: "maybe you feel fear of not returning what they want, or being unable to pay their total price." (but my fear-feeling sounds logically because D.Juan does warn about danger- but at the same time he does admire the ancient magicians for the advantages they had through their realtionship with the inorganic beings.) So this oppositional statement of D.Juan has to be understood better, or lets say I still didnt comprehend if its finally great or not.. hmm ? I feel as well right what you`re saying in that my SP was a kind of opened up and harmonized. By whom ever, anyways now, if they were inorganic beings or just any dream-persons. One thing I feel or meant different is, I didnt "run away" (you may have confused that with our catch-game, respectively I have not explained it well enough), so I rather told him that Im _not yet_ ready. Surely there was an inner wish to be ready for that, because this dissolving was accompanied by ecstatic feelings. But anyways in a way you are still right though, because its surely my Ego who still is running away from such higher states of being. Thanks again. lgn
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Post by sxy on Sept 15, 2005 3:46:14 GMT -5
Hey NANI >>!! Wow those dreams must have been great ..!!! I have to agree with Incubus; your fear is the tell point,that you were not up to the challenge and debt.... It must have been those inorganic beings..... well I say this cause I also met them after I read chapter 3 >>> I was confronted at my bed side and shown things about my body energy..!!! then he was demanding of me >>>? I didn't like what he wanted We must be right cause I thought the very same thing,, that I had just met an inorganic being ...! I am away in Boston for a few days , I hope to have some dream time there..~ ~SXY~
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Post by nani on Sept 15, 2005 10:57:55 GMT -5
wow thats amazing you had this happen too SXY, thanks a lot for your reply whoooo.. hoho but I must say I`d liked it though, but maybe because I didnt yet feel anything demanding.. or maybe they yet got easily a grasp on me because of my "nature" lol.. hmm I dont hope so...uuuuhh shiver..lol Hey SXY have a save and wonderful trip, and come back soon, we`ll miss ya, lgn
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Post by crazycat on Sept 16, 2005 23:38:29 GMT -5
Wow, Nani and Sxy. I don't know if I like the sound of it. I think I'm like Don Jaun, I don't think I want to have anything to do with them. But I'm not so sure I haven't already, because of that dream I had I think in the second week were something was plastered to my back and was causing an electric sensation, that felt like energy was being taken from me. I couldn't make it stop. I felt tired all day that day, but I stayed awake all the next night because I didn't like that. Just bringing it to memory now makes that sensation come back.
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Post by nani on Sept 17, 2005 16:36:48 GMT -5
yes Linda, I do also feel a lot of caution and respect for those matters of the other world, but as long as I believe that theres not anything which can rule or control me I can deal with it I think, or better said - I hope Lol. I have to believe that I can stop all that anytime I want, I mean I dont wonna loose my mind - I only want to grow and be brave to confront whatever is awaiting me. And most important Im looking for love, freedom and light, nothing else, cause I believe we all Are love, freedom and light finally, I really am convinced of that !! But of course I can shiver of fear emotionally. And I must say that alone on my own I wouldnt go into such experiments, truly not, so it must be so that also I rely and trust a lot on you all my dear researchers, thats a great thing, lgn
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Post by nani on Sept 17, 2005 17:50:29 GMT -5
book-read: till the half of chapter 4. before sleep: LD-exercise to find my hands in my dreams.
Dream: 17.9.2005 a kind of end of the world situation (again), dont know if atomic bombs or nature-catastrophe, but me and lots of people are running away of something towards some houses or bigger buildings. Suddenly Im a child of around 7 years and my left hand is injured quite badly, especially the middle finger, but I dont care so much cause we are awaiting the next bad wave of something. Im looking towards the western horizon and suddenly detect a huge beautiful rainbow at the clear sky. I shout to the people around: "look, look, how wonderful!" All the people are looking at the sky, saying: "ohh wow how wonderful, a good sign!". But just some seconds later I realize that just below the rainbow there is more colorful light and while I keep on looking at it it starts to reveal something like a plan. It looks like a plan of tube or a subway-map painted at the sky. This looks like it arises out of the rainbow, its made out of the same colourful light and its vibrating tremendously like electricity - first after a while we realize that this is a warning, a real divine warning for all of us (that maybe at the subway something bad does happen).
In a next dream I get drunk (but I dont drink usually)
Thoughts: until now no clear idea, just again that electricity-thingee, which also occures in the book.
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Post by crazycat on Sept 18, 2005 12:22:25 GMT -5
Weird Nani, I hurt my middle finger yesterday and it is so sore today. I also had a sky dream last night. I'll post post about that on my page.
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Post by ~¤LilacSky¤~ on Sept 18, 2005 17:21:24 GMT -5
Nani you have alot of interesting things going on here..wow and very enriching as well with the sky.. hmm, could be an awakening for yourself or for the human race maybe.. the human race sure could use one!!lol
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Post by nani on Sept 18, 2005 17:58:57 GMT -5
hehe Ronni yes I agree our race could need one, me included lol. But you know what makes me wonder most is, the rainbow usually is (for me) a very great symbol, positive, almost divine - but it transformed into such a bad symbol or plan of desctruction.. I really do wonder what that means.. either deep inside myself something heavy is coming up? Or, what I wish the most less, it has a meaning for a certain catastrophe - but I dont believe that I am a clairyoyant, I dont have any of such abilities, fortunately. But why does such a beautiful, productive symbol transform into such a mess? lgn
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Post by nani on Sept 26, 2005 14:11:34 GMT -5
again a period I dont remember dreams at the moment, but I have to write down what happened to me today.
one of the two bunny of my nephew and nice has died yesterday, so I went to comfort the left one a bit. When I came to the little stable I saw something moving at the grid, it was a little mouse which had pressed her body through the grid from one side to the other and back again, so the bum was looking to the front and the little head through another grid too, it looked terrible suffering, it was such a lot bigger then the holes of the grid - anyways finally (I`ve never touched a mouse because they move so fast thats odd for me) I needed 30 minutes till I could free her by truly operating her out one step after the other. She bite me first, then not anymore, because she then knew that Im freeing her. I then did put her on the ground and started to chant the OM and then she was taking 3 deep breath and then dying.
I asked the family if they had put the dead brother of the bunny to the alive bunny so he could say good bye, like animals do in nature, they sit beside the dead for a certain goodbye-time. Family said no they didnt, they had burried him right away - so my feeling was that the dead bunny came there disguised as mouse to say good bye in dying there for hours directly in front of the bunny. Maybe an odd thought or feeling, but all seems connected..
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Post by zayin on Sept 28, 2005 16:54:34 GMT -5
it does seem connected to the bunny for sure, in one way or another, for the bunny. hmm interesting.
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Post by nani on Sept 29, 2005 9:42:47 GMT -5
book-read: finished the 6th chapter yesterday before sleep. condition: tried the couch-potatoe thing of Michael while meditating on my bed, shifted into a light dream while sitting straight, then shifted back into trance-like state and viceverse.
Belly and Egg
Dream: 29.9.05
I was with my mother and the mother of my ex- fiance somewhere in the south in vacations. My belly was getting bigger and bigger and I liked that very much. Next I realise that my belly is not increasing anymore, a kind of stagnation or I don’t know what, then I sense and search with my hand between my legs, feel an egg and pull it out somehow lol. Next Im at a similar vacation-scene, sitting with my father in a vw-bus. We are standing in very deep sand near the beach. I have to get the bus and us out of the sand, start the engine and start to drive slowly and carefully - so we do wobble along some meters.. then I wake up.
Thoughts: I had 2 egg&belly dreams/experiences before recently, but these ones were positive in the way of that my belly was increasing and was accompanied (in real) by obe-and dream-awareness related sensibility, whilst during the last 12 days I had no remembrance of any dream thing. Maybe I could say Im just starting to get back into meditation and obe-work. BTW: Im not looking for pregnancy lol (47), but my mentioned ex-fiance didn’t want a child when I wanted in 95.
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